Jeep versus H3
 

I am torned between these two vehicles. It would appear that the Jeep has better ground clearance and water fording per Hummers and Jeeps website. The top comes off on the Jeep but the Hummer was quiter on the highway. The power is really lacking in the H3 although the Jeep is not much better. My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too. After all thier is only one Jeep. I promise if I see a H3 on the trail I will wave and be happy to pull you out as long as you sign a waiver when the Jeep pulls your bumper off.

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The Jeep thing...:giggling:

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Get the FJ, according to their site - FJC Forum, it's the greatest offroad vehicle in the planet.

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A Heep will be pulling an H3 out??? Not likely.:giggling: :OWNED:

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Only kidding, just wanted to have some fun. I did look at the H3 but finally ordered the Jeep. I also looked at FJ Cruisers. Honestly I could live with any of them.

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That's right....the Willy's!!!!!!


Not the German Chrysler Jeep....:giggling:

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Congrats on your new German Jeep........errr Compass?

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Heh.. you think? Considering most of us on here can afford the H2 as well as the H1. Ever thought that just maybe some people like the H3? I mean, you like jeeps, so it can't be that far fetched of a thought process...

I suppose that H2 owners are just wanna be H1 owners as well, correct?

See you on the trail... (Remember, tires are supposed to be under you, not on top.):giggling:

Excellent first post. -5 points :fdance:

Go pick on someone your own size...

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Nice vid!.. First time I have seen that one! :clapping:

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Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader. I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJ loaded with manual trans and lockers. The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont think that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc. But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug:

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Scouts were pieces of crap. You say "serious off-roader" and Scout in the same post.... get real. And Yep, I've wheeled Scouts, back in High School and for the one we wheeled, we had a whole spare back at the farm so we would have parts to scavenge from when it would break.:lame:

We

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Well then we can count on you to join us on our next Rubicon trip?

Not even a stock h3 could do soupbowl, Little Sluice.

Old sluice could be done, but not without some guaranteed body damage. And we are not talking a couple of scratches either.

I have wheeled in both and they are both capable. The H2 is FAR more comfortable while wheeling. I drove a friends last weekend and he almost didn't get it back...:giggling:

Can't wait to catch up with you on the trail.....

Hey Sewie, looks like we've got another hardcore guy to wheel with!:D

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To be honest with y'all, I'm not really a big fan of the H2 either. I like them, but I woudn't drive one. One of the reasons I bought a H is the "color"...:clapping:

....sorry fellows, I found this review about the H1 and H2.... :giggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:dancingbanana:

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NOW THIS HAS TO BE A "FIRST"

scums & me on the same team (idea) about something...

RYD

:excited:


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fissed :giggling:

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nevermind.. lol

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Lol, that was the other guy! :giggling:

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It would be nice if they can't see who edited the post...:beerchug:

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I thought H2's were :lame: for years. Then I bought my H3, after owning 3 Jeeps (all lifted and locked) and a Land Rover Discovery (lifted and locked) I found that they all suffered in some way from the modifications and always needed a little more work to get it "right". When looking to replace my Land Rover (due to the horrible MPG and sluuuuugishness of the engine with the massive 31'' tires:giggling: ) I looked at every comparable SUV out there. Jeep did not yet have the four door wrangler and the FJ's back seat (I have a family and dogs) is about as functional as a Ford Escort's:fdance: .
The only vehicle that could do it all without any major modification was the H3. Oh yeah, . It doesn't feel like a tent (did I mention that I have DVD players in the head rests:clapping:) more like an armored vehicle.


The new Jeep unlimited Rubicon is a great looking vehicle with lots of potential, but I feel very confident that I made the right choice with my H3:jump: .
Oh yeah try putting 35's on a stock wrangler:shhh: .

I will admit that I am prepping the wife for the purchase of the fabled V8 H3, but if it doesn't happen my little I-5 is just fine. It works much better than my Land Rover and gets better MPG than it and my previous Jeeps.

Oh yeah, there was a point?now I want an H2 for long trips cause I have too much junk and the H2's I have seen on this forum are not :lame: , they kick ass !:beerchug:
:grouphug: I now see the light, stick around long enough and you will too.

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haha, lol. that was a good laugh. althou i love the h1. i especially liked the 1 mpg on the h2 but is that possible, or was that dude just busting balls. anyway i love my hummer and all the others too. i like jeeps too, but for some reason i am a little turned off by FJs.:)
i also wonder what the jeepers and fjers will be saing when the V8 comes out. so far all they trash is the power, when we get that are they gona die out or hows it gona happen?

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Harumph!! :jump:




Too much cough syrup this morning.. lol ;)

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That was great for healing wounds, HUH?

RYD

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Ummmmm..... you can inform your "wife" that I bought the H3 because I wanted it. It sat among many H2s. I could have easily afforded the latter. However, read the reviews, look at the style, and drive the two. Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:

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Lets get back to talking shop, fegs...H3 - capable or not? Obviously not in the same category as Rubicon or FJ, but close? Will I be able to keep up with my brother in his FJ? ?...unless we need to ford 28 in of water. haha

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You are right, they are not in the same category as a Rubicon or FJ, one step above, period. Take stock to stock... they know it, we know it. Put 35's on an H3? Forgetaboutit. :)

Keep up with your brother in his FJ? Without sounding biased, yes. And them some. He will have problems keeping up with you... Get the rear diff locker.. :)

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I saw that a while back. I lost all respect for Top Gear after that feature. Very:lame:

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haha I agree, H2 was like the retarded, fat, redhead stepbrother of the H1.

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lol

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Stagger Lee
It is more about the driver than the rig.

The LWB Rubicon with out do anything out of the showroom but maybe a Dodge Power Wagon or H1 or a tractor.

The H3 will keep up with the FJ just fine. The H3 is a better overall daily driver rig than the JK. quieter better ride etc.

If the JK was out at the time I was looking at the H3 I might have gone with a LWB Rubicon but so far I am very pleased with the H3.

Get and and have some fun:)

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Even with a front and rear Dana 44 and front and rear lockers? ...sometimes size isn't going to get you there...devils advocate.

Yeah I am looking for answers here, because I want one (H3), so thats good to hear. We'll see what we can break first. We use our rigs to the max, so we'll be the judge. I definately love the 35" in tires on a stocker. :excited: I assume by being able to put 35's on there they made sure the axles were stout enough to handle that size and weight...??

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:rolleyes:

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We try not to think about it..;)

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Ok now, wait a minute. The Rubicon I understand, but the FJ? ....please!
245 hp, V6 .....big deal!!! What are the departure and approach angles? You have to modify that thing to be wheelable! The skid plate is :lame: Plus, who wants to be seen in it! The FJ probably the gheyest of the ghey! :giggling:

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Definately agree about the driver being the key factor. I will be using my H3 as a my daily. But at the same time I love to push my vehicles to the max. My Fj40 is more like operating a tractor then anything, so daily driver? not so much. My family has grown up 4 wheelin, so naturally we worry about the little things (big things) ie: spline count, ratios, cv joint strength and what not. Not typical worries for most. Thanks though. I test drove it last night, and I love it (H3). :beerchug:

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Have you ridden in one? I wouldn't say a thing until your hanging on the side of a cliff, very capable. Not pretty, but capable.

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:beerchug:
You try not to think about blowing an axle when your out having fun? You might want to start thinking about it, or carry a spare. Most vehicles you cant just slap bigger tires on without lower gear ratio and or beefier axles. I dont know about the axle strength of the H3 thats why I was asking.

Also given that you owned a lifted discovery you should know about weak axles. Very low spline count for having an offset rear axle = much breakage or twisting when used for intended purposes. Crawling. I dont think that rovers are anywhere near the level of H3, Rubicon or FJ are at. Unlees we are talking about the Defender.

All due respect to all here of course, I am inquiring and getting info not bashing anybody. I appreciate the info given already.

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Yeah, but to put it in the same league as the H3, it'd take a lot of money, and it wouldn't sidehill very nicely. The FJ's turning radius it awful, it's mileage a couple MPG lower, and to put 35s on it takes a lot of dough. How about it's crawl ratio?

Again, I think Jeep missed the boat by not putting the PowerWagon's drive train under it, it'd be a kick butt rig then!

Likewise with the H3, and I'm gonna harp on it until they make it: Right size the components for the abuse. Make the Alpha, they will come.

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I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. 165 HP but well over 350 LB of torque. dana 's front and rear. Now as I slightly age I would never consider one, road manners were equal to a pig and the body rusted as you watched. It had a fully boxed frame, easily lifted.....

I love my 3, probably the best all around vehicle I have owned, but the Scout was a fine vehicle. Remember, in the wise words of Sir Rodney King, "Can't we all get along"

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Few arguments, but not many, To only lose a couple miles a gallon , and gain 25 horses and a good amount of torque, well, that might sway me towards the FJ, keep in mind Im most likely driving home in a H3 tonite, so. The other thing is that tire size isn't always going to be the determining factor in getting through an obsticle. On to Jeeps (Rubicon) - 44s front and rear in something as light as a wrangler body is plenty stout for me unless I want to run 37" tires which would require a significant lift (Rubicon Express) as it is, so having said that. Also keep in mind that I come from a rock crawling background, so I have knowledge bias towards that type wheeling. Again with all due respect to all. :beerchug: