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whaaaaT 01-31-2007 05:06 PM

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Anyone notice if you jump in the H3 after its been sitting in the cold for a long time it goes slower than any other car you've ever driven? I've also noticed that sometimes if you floor it and truck downshifts in cold weather your temp will actually drop like a quarter. This was on the highway with the heat on in recirculate.

stagger_lee 01-31-2007 05:32 PM

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You are letting the oil temp get up to par right? If its really cold you should let it warm up for several minutes before jumping on it. I also spend a lot of time cold weather (20 degrees and below), and I have never seen the temp gauge drop at all when Im driving. It changes slightly from time to time, but not suddenly. :beerchug:

Steve - SanJose 01-31-2007 05:40 PM

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Yea, best not to thrash it until it's warmed up.

raptorman53 02-01-2007 03:33 AM

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Mine does that. I got on it the other night and the engine temp droped half way in less than a quarter mile. I think this is because the coolant moving through the engine faster at higher rpm. Also if you drop it down to third the temp will drop a little bit. I noticed this with my trailer. Look at my other thread.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...t=coolant+temp

blindzebra 02-01-2007 08:10 AM

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yes it's normal for the temp gauge to drop when it's cold. Usually it will be at a level and when I hop on the interstate and get up to 70 or so it will drop some until I've gone a few miles. An yes, I let my engine warm up until it reaches it's idle rpm. It's just due to a rush of cold air around the sensor.

HummerHippy 02-01-2007 02:26 PM

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Hmm, Hadn't noticed. It's been getting down to single digits in the past few weeks. Expect the same this weekend. 2 words - Block heater! :)
I must say, I am pretty easy on the engine while it's cold.

phantom2 02-01-2007 06:23 PM

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It goes slower than any vehicle I've ever driven, hot or cold

whaaaaT 02-01-2007 10:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom2
It goes slower than any vehicle I've ever driven, hot or cold



ha ha ha! yea its pretty wierd when you floor it and people in your car riding with you have no idea.

stagger_lee 02-01-2007 10:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzebra
An yes, I let my engine warm up until it reaches it's idle rpm. It's just due to a rush of cold air around the sensor.

I sure hope everyone lets their rig warm up, you never know though ;) I am confused by the cold air around the sensor statement. Engine temps should be read internally by the thermostat which reads water temp. Unless you mean the rush of cold air into the radiator, in which case doesn't seem like it would register colder temps immediately, although in the cases said here it seems as though it does. :confused: This is more of a questioning statement looking for affirmation, not trying talk sh!t, blindzebra. :beerchug:

whaaaaT 02-02-2007 03:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorman53
Mine does that. I got on it the other night and the engine temp droped half way in less than a quarter mile. I think this is because the coolant moving through the engine faster at higher rpm. Also if you drop it down to third the temp will drop a little bit. I noticed this with my trailer. Look at my other thread.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...t=coolant+temp



Hey your definatley right. I put it in 3rd for maybe half a block and the temp dropped really fast. You'd think itd be opposite. Guess it just just pumps faster at higher rpms like you said. hmmm.

Joeyoshi 02-02-2007 04:36 AM

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MY truck will do it when it's 50 out. I have never seen that in any other auto befor. The dealer said it was normal????????? The truck has no power when it's cold even after I let it warm up for 10 to 15 min, strange

K9sH3 02-02-2007 04:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whaaaaT
ha ha ha! yea its pretty wierd when you floor it and people in your car riding with you have no idea.



:iagree: It real bad when you floor it and you don't know it. I am close to the 18 months and I get tired of what I have - problem. I am already looking.

fourfourto 02-02-2007 05:13 AM

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Auto start is great in the cold .
MPG will drop though

Using synthetic oil is better for cold motors,I have been using moble 1 since the 2nd oil change.

graydog 02-02-2007 12:53 PM

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no power here either must be that big bad i5.

stagger_lee 02-02-2007 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stagger_lee
I sure hope everyone lets their rig warm up, you never know though ;) I am confused by the cold air around the sensor statement. Engine temps should be read internally by the thermostat which reads water temp. Unless you mean the rush of cold air into the radiator, in which case doesn't seem like it would register colder temps immediately, although in the cases said here it seems as though it does. :confused: This is more of a questioning statement looking for affirmation, not trying talk sh!t, blindzebra. :beerchug:


What about any confirmation on this? we know we have no power guys. I just wasn't buying the "rush of cold air around the sensor" statement from blindzebra, and again just asking not trashing! :giggling: :beerchug: .

whaaaaT 02-02-2007 06:02 PM

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yea i dont think its the rush of cold air either. I think its got more to do with engine rpms and the coolant flow. I know when i stop at red lights my temp goes up a little right away. When i floor it in cold or go to a lower gear it drops a lot now. So im guessing this truck just doesnt do well job of controling its flow. Im sure sombodys gonna go crazy trying to defend the perfection of the hummer. But im not ranking on my own truck. Im just saying what it does. Its kinda wierd. I've never had any other trucks do this.

stagger_lee 02-02-2007 09:04 PM

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I agree, and I am noticing a minor temp changes now that I know to look for it, but as long as it doesn't overheat Im not complaining. Our trucks are slow, but who cares, look what we can do! You dont need HP to have a good wheeler. 4.03 to 1 TC and 4.56's!!! enough said. :perfect10s:
:beerchug:

evldave 02-02-2007 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whaaaaT
yea i dont think its the rush of cold air either. I think its got more to do with engine rpms and the coolant flow. I know when i stop at red lights my temp goes up a little right away. When i floor it in cold or go to a lower gear it drops a lot now. So im guessing this truck just doesnt do well job of controling its flow. Im sure sombodys gonna go crazy trying to defend the perfection of the hummer. But im not ranking on my own truck. Im just saying what it does. Its kinda wierd. I've never had any other trucks do this.


This has come up a couple other times in threads. More flow doesn't necessarily mean drop in temperature. If the water is hot throughout the engine, it's just gonna flow more of the same temp water. I'd guess, because I'm too lazy to go check right now (and forget by the time I get off work every day) that the temp sensor is on the intake of the engine after the rad. Then, when the flow picks up, it's picking up the flow post radiator. If the temp sensor was in the out from the engine, it wouldn't change so much because the engine would keep the temp higher than flowing through the rad. Unless it was a really high-volume pump and pumped all the cool water from the rad through the engine to the sensor so quick it still looked like it was dropping fast, but from what I can remember (it is after all Friday and I'm at work, so my brain isn't working today), the temp drop is almost instantaneous, so that wouldn't make sense, would it???:confused: I think I've confused myself now...

Idaho-Hummer 02-02-2007 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by evldave
I think I've confused myself now...


Don't worry Evldave, here what I do get a bearing on the issue at hand, check the temp gauge, good to go. Check the heater, yep got heat form the heater(FU@K its cold up here -40), see any steam from the front of the car, no stream. Fu@k it, the car works lets go play!!!!!!

whaaaaT 02-03-2007 01:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stagger_lee
I agree, and I am noticing a minor temp changes now that I know to look for it, but as long as it doesn't overheat Im not complaining. Our trucks are slow, but who cares, look what we can do! You dont need HP to have a good wheeler. 4.03 to 1 TC and 4.56's!!! enough said. :perfect10s:
:beerchug:


actually my truck overheated a few times in the summer. Dealer replaced the thermostat and something else. Some houseing thing or something. It was overheating when i was driving on the beach.

f5fstop 02-03-2007 03:29 PM

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Engine temp sensor is located at the rear of the cylinder head on the right side. It is not on the intake.

Joeyoshi 02-07-2007 04:49 AM

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So no one has an answer. Hummer has informed me that no one has called on it but me. I need info from the southern owners (where it is 60 to 80 outside.) so that I can find out if it's just a cold weather thing.


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