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rob85635 05-15-2007 10:45 PM

Comments on Rock Rails / step up
 
http://www.teakatoys.com/H3_Rock_Rai...p/h2o-rkr3.htm

Do you think this product would serve not only as a rock rail but also as a step up for my wife or should I look for a nerf bar?

Thanks,

Rob

RubHer Yellow Ducky 05-15-2007 10:51 PM

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DAM

3/4 of a thousand bucks...

Viet Nam Vette 05-15-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky
DAM

3/4 of a thousand bucks...


Yeah ...seems they were cheaper when they first came out a while back..Like $400-$600. That's Bebe's rig in the pic ...they do look nice..

The GM ones are like around $500..$600 But not built as well as the
H2O's. So I guess if you want the best..you gotta pay. ...Heh ..How about a group purchase.. What-da think Duck..??? Wan-a cut lose with some of that Blue Coin-age...??

Crash ? 05-16-2007 12:39 AM

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Yall are missing one IMPORTANT thing here..

Note: Bolt to stock rock rails.

H2O = $750
GM = $600

H20 + GM = :lame:

f5fstop 05-16-2007 01:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
Yeah ...seems they were cheaper when they first came out a while back..Like $400-$600. That's Bebe's rig in the pic ...they do look nice..

The GM ones are like around $500..$600 But not built as well as the
H2O's. So I guess if you want the best..you gotta pay. ...Heh ..How about a group purchase.. What-da think Duck..??? Wan-a cut lose with some of that Blue Coin-age...??


Not as well built?????
They are two different items. As Crash pointed out, the H2O items bolt to the "not so well built" GM rock rails. (I might add, the GM rock rails are about the best on the market at this time. They not only protect the outer rocker, but the seam.)

Viet Nam Vette 05-16-2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by f5fstop
Not as well built?????
They are two different items. As Crash pointed out, the H2O items bolt to the "not so well built" GM rock rails. (I might add, the GM rock rails are about the best on the market at this time. They not only protect the outer rocker, but the seam.)


I Ment... The Steel used and Covering process... Powder Coating..etc. Seems the H20's are heaver gauge.

How ever...let me clear the air here.. I plan on buying the GM unit's as they are made for my Rig. I always buy the GM Accessories. I'm a GM Junkie.

Now go Vote for Fred....:clapping:

HummBebe 05-16-2007 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by f5fstop
Not as well built?????
They are two different items. As Crash pointed out, the H2O items bolt to the "not so well built" GM rock rails. (I might add, the GM rock rails are about the best on the market at this time. They not only protect the outer rocker, but the seam.)


The reason he didn't build the rock rails? The GM one's were already as beefy as he would have made them.

He added a step slider to an already great product.I've slid on some crazy sh!t that would have gotten my doors for sure. They work great as extended sliders and a step.

H2O + GM = a kick a$$ set up.:p

P.S. You ALWAYS get what you pay for.:fdance:

RubHer Yellow Ducky 05-16-2007 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
The reason he didn't build the rock rails? The GM one's were already as beefy as he would have made them.

He added a step slider to an already great product.I've slid on some crazy sh!t that would have gotten my doors for sure. They work great as extended sliders and a step.

H2O + GM = a kick a$$ set up.:p

P.S. You ALWAYS get what you pay for.:fdance:


only thing is : MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES !!!

3/4 of a thousand DANG !!!

HummBebe 05-16-2007 04:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky
only thing is : MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES !!!

3/4 of a thousand DANG !!!


You'll spend more than that on tires.

It just about priorities, and what you really do with your HUMMER.

rob85635 05-16-2007 03:13 PM

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If I put 35s on, do I not need to take it to the dealer to have the spedometer adjusted?

stagger_lee 05-16-2007 04:04 PM

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holy friggin subject change batman! So back to rock rails. I just ordered my GMs last week. I cant wait to get rid of my ghey nerf bars. I figured at least I could bolt up the H2O's at a later time. The wife and kid would like a step still. :beerchug:

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 04:36 PM

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aehem,,,they look ghey,,,

HummBebe 05-16-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rob85635
If I put 35s on, do I not need to take it to the dealer to have the spedometer adjusted?


No speedo adjustment from GM at this time.

HummBebe 05-16-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMMJAY
aehem,,,they look ghey,,,



ur gay :fdance:

rob85635 05-16-2007 05:37 PM

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holy friggin subject change batman! So back to rock rails. I just ordered my GMs last week. I cant wait to get rid of my ghey nerf bars. I figured at least I could bolt up the H2O's at a later time. The wife and kid would like a step still.

Can you provide me with how you obtained the GM part and who you ordered it from. I went to the hummer website but I cannot find the link to the GM branded accessories. Not sure how to buy them or even find part numbers and pictures.

Thanks,

Rob

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
ur gay :fdance:

I was wondering how long that would take:dancingbanana:

HummBebe 05-16-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMMJAY
I was wondering how long that would take:dancingbanana:


Don't pick a fight with me today.....it will do you no good.:rant:

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Don't pick a fight with me today.....it will do you no good.:rant:

easy,,,easy,,,easy,,, just havin fun :jump: bebe

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rob85635
Can you provide me with how you obtained the GM part and who you ordered it from. I went to the hummer website but I cannot find the link to the GM branded accessories. Not sure how to buy them or even find part numbers and pictures.

Thanks,

Rob

GM part #12498471

rob85635 05-16-2007 05:47 PM

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I went to the official hummer website and found the following two items that I think would fit my needs, but I can't for the life of me find a link on pricing or where to order. From the official hummer site:

Quote:

ROCKER PANEL PROTECTOR
Large, 2-inch steel tubes runs along the driver and passenger sides. Bolted directly to the frame rail, helps protect the lower body and door panels against rock strikes and other strong blows. Rocker panel protection is required to get the U-shaped assist steps.

U-SHAPED ASSIST STEPS
Individual black U-shaped steps placed under each side of the cabin doors provide easy entry. They attach to the rocker panel protection and can be installed and removed quickly and easily.

Comments on these two items and how I can order them? I would assume any GM dealer could order them but I wonder if there is a better (cheaper) source.

Thanks,

Rob

rob85635 05-16-2007 05:49 PM

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GM part #12498471

How did you find that part number and how does one order?

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 05:51 PM

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your dealer is not your enemy,,, go get yourself some rocker pannel bars

Crash ? 05-16-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMMJAY
your dealer is not your enemy,,, go get yourself some rocker pannel bars


I see you have not met my dealer... :giggling:


JK.. Sunrise is pretty good.. Even if I did have to try to make them rebuild the front end of my truck correctly rather than just say "oh well, close enough" after a deer hit.. And then of course I rather than get an invite from them to a Hummer Happening I had to hear about it through a local Jeep Club website and then go ask if I'd been blacklisted...

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 06:02 PM

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[quote=Crash ?]I see you have not met my dealer... :giggling:


the skill level of the the mechanic's nor the people skills of the sevice writers are not in question,,,, all I'm saying is that if theirs some thing you want to know you shouldnt be afraid to ask,,,:beerchug:

Crash ? 05-16-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMMJAY
all I'm saying is that if theirs some thing you want to know you shouldnt be afraid to ask,,,:beerchug:


You shouldn't be, but in time you learn you have to be...

For instance the time I asked about Rock Rails for the H3 and I was told they didn't make them.. Or the time I bought the UCP and was told they don't come with directions or any other nuts and bolts, because you just reuse the ones already on the truck.. Or how about when I pulled into the service bay with 35" BFG MTs and they told me those tires won't fit on an H3..

ChiHummer3 05-16-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash ?
You shouldn't be, but in time you learn you have to be...

For instance the time I asked about Rock Rails for the H3 and I was told they didn't make them.. Or the time I bought the UCP and was told they don't come with directions or any other nuts and bolts, because you just reuse the ones already on the truck.. Or how about when I pulled into the service bay with 35" BFG MTs and they told me those tires won't fit on an H3..


Crash, you're experience with the dealership sounds familiar! I called my dealership about the rear wiper and jack recall...and the guy told me there were no recalls on the H3. Duh! Then when I got the car in there, he asked me where I got my brush guard. (I bought it from a different Hummer dealership when his dealership couldn't/wouldn't match the price) Genuine OEM....and this service manager insisted it wasn't OEM and went on to say, "Hummer's brush guard isn't as sturdy as that." WTF?? And this guy works for Hummer?!?!?

Anyway rob85635 - the point is, shop around for stuff and be informed! The people on this board can offer loads of information.

Congrats on your 3! :beerchug:

f5fstop 05-16-2007 07:51 PM

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Just to let everyone know, the rear wiper washer pump has expired as of December 31, 2006. So, if you haven't been to the dealer yet, they may not replace it. Then again, the reason it expired is if the pump has not failed by now, chances are it will not fail earlier than normal.:jump:

HummerHippy 05-16-2007 07:58 PM

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OK, just to clarify for my own sake, the Teaka Toys Rock rails (in the link above) are like the GMs, but they are in addition to the GM rock rails. Right? Need GMs first, and then these bolt on and give you more protection, as well as, what looks like, a step.
Where the GMs have removable steps, TeakaToys are a "permanent" step, just part of the rocker protection. Have I got that right?

(Love the truck beebs)

rob85635 05-16-2007 08:07 PM

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What do you think of these GM parts and the pricing?

Rocker Panel Protector kit part # 12498471
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...6801QQtcZphoto

Assist steps for above part, Part # 12498473
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-07...6766QQtcZphoto

I am correct that I need two sets of the Assist steps? The prices there seem reasonable. Comments?

Thanks,

Rob

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 08:21 PM

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[quote=rob85635]What do you think of these GM parts and the pricing?


Assist steps for above part, Part # 12498473<-- gehy

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 08:21 PM

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Rocker Panel Protector kit part # 12498471 <-- not gehy

rob85635 05-16-2007 08:54 PM

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Ok, so the steps are ghey... my tiny wife still needs assistance getting in. Can I use something else with that rocker panel?

ChiHummer3 05-16-2007 09:17 PM

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Totally disagree that the steps are ghey. I have them on my truck and they're great. Perfect for smaller people and kids. I know that probably isn't important to some people - but I think they're very functional and they look a lot better than the tube steps (IMHO). If you want to see them actually on a H3 you can check out my public profile here on the forum. I have a picture posted.

They aren't very functional if you're going to do a lot of off roading. They hang down pretty low.

usetosellhummer 05-16-2007 09:17 PM

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removeable side steps

HUMMJAY 05-16-2007 09:18 PM

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short people aint got no reason to live,,,,,

ChiHummer3 05-16-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMMJAY
short people aint got no reason to live,,,,,


Define short.

rob85635 05-17-2007 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiHummer3
Totally disagree that the steps are ghey. I have them on my truck and they're great. Perfect for smaller people and kids. I know that probably isn't important to some people - but I think they're very functional and they look a lot better than the tube steps (IMHO). If you want to see them actually on a H3 you can check out my public profile here on the forum. I have a picture posted.

They aren't very functional if you're going to do a lot of off roading. They hang down pretty low.


ChiHummer3, thanks for the advice. I went and looked at your forum picture but your H3 has the one piece runner. The one I am looking at is a two piece set for each side. Do you have both kinds?

ChiHummer3 05-17-2007 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rob85635
ChiHummer3, thanks for the advice. I went and looked at your forum picture but your H3 has the one piece runner. The one I am looking at is a two piece set for each side. Do you have both kinds?


You are correct - mine are one solid piece on each side. I prefer the look of the of the full rail, plus it's easier for us when we load our kayaks on the roof racks - it's just extra stepping area to use. I'm sure the 2 piece (for each side) will work just as well.

It comes down to which look you like better. They are very functional though (unless you're going off road - then they'll need to come off). I've got two small kids that can get in and out of the truck easily with these rails.

Crash ? 05-17-2007 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rob85635
Rocker Panel Protector kit part # 12498471
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...6801QQtcZphoto

I am correct that I need two sets of the Assist steps? The prices there seem reasonable. Comments?


Under $500 shipped is the lowest price I've ever seen these new.. Can't comment on the steps.. Have never looked at the price on 'em..

HummerHippy 05-17-2007 01:36 PM

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Back to the post's original topic...those teaka toys "steps"... are they rock rails? i.e. do they protect and are not meant to be removed when off roading?


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