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HummBebe 06-12-2007 11:05 PM

Time for New Brake pads
 
Should I go with OEM replacements?

Is there anythiing better out there?

What should I expect to pay for OEM Pads?

What should I expect to pay for an upgraded pad?

ChiHummer3 06-12-2007 11:08 PM

Re: Time for New Brake pads
 
How many miles did you get outta the factory pads??

HummBebe 06-12-2007 11:13 PM

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almost 52K

HummBebe 06-12-2007 11:37 PM

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:twak: Just got a quote from the dealer...$530.00 for front and rear pads.

Mr_Pat 06-12-2007 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
:twak: Just got a quote from the dealer...$530.00 for front and rear pads.

Holly SH!T !!! I assume thats installed? I would do it me self. I wonder how much just the pads are?

HummBebe 06-12-2007 11:54 PM

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Yep...installed.

Pads are 150 Front and 140 rear.

Desert Dan 06-12-2007 11:54 PM

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Usually the front brakes wear out sooner than the rear brakes.
There is no need to replace the rear pads if they are still good.

I don't like turning the rotors unless they are scored.

HummBebe 06-12-2007 11:55 PM

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They said I needed both.

Steve - SanJose 06-13-2007 12:03 AM

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52K. Must be that extra weight (of the add-ons to the H3 I mean, I wanted to make that perfectly clear).

f5fstop 06-13-2007 12:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Dan
Usually the front brakes wear out sooner than the rear brakes.
There is no need to replace the rear pads if they are still good.

I don't like turning the rotors unless they are scored.


I have to agree 100 %.
Hard to understand how the rears would be worn out the same time the fronts are worn out. The fronts do 70-80 percent of all the braking, and should at least twice as fast.
Fronts at 52K sounds about right. BUT...$530? Can't say if that is a good price of not, since I would do my own brake job. Hardest part is jacking up the front or rear and removing the damn heavy tires.

I also agree on the rotors. If they are not scored, or warped, do not turn, unless it is a finish turn just to remove any possible pad residue that might be on the rotor(s). Too many people have this philosophy of turning rotors in their heads, and usually, it is not required. GM has published hundreds of bulletins on NOT turning rotors if not required. Removing the metal mass will cause overheating to damage the rotors faster than if left at standard mass.

OEM pads are excellent, however, there could be others out there just as good. Raybestos, Warner, Bendix are three good name brands, but not sure if they make any for the H3. Also not sure at this time, what other vehicles might use the same pads. (I'll try and check tomorrow for ya.)

I would guess you can get the pads a lot cheaper from GM Parts Direct.

HummBebe 06-13-2007 12:46 AM

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The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?

NewHummerGuy 06-13-2007 12:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?


Maybe for the hell of it take them somewhere else for another look.

deserth3 06-13-2007 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?


Yes!!But I've had it happen on past vehicles.

f5fstop 06-13-2007 12:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?


Yes and no. Hard to really estimate the time left on a set of brake pads. Personally, I know you have good relations with your Dealer, but a second opinion does not hurt.:dancingbanana:

HummBebe 06-13-2007 03:39 AM

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Thanks, but I gave the go ahead.

lennyrebel 06-13-2007 05:49 AM

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On my 2002 Avalanche with 11 inch rotors on back rear pads were worn out at 45000 km, about 30,000 miles and front were still over half there. Couldn't figure it unless there is some weird biasing with the ABS system. Was first time in my life I ever replaced rear and not front. Usually rear last at least twice as long as front. Regards The Rebel

Sewie 06-13-2007 06:16 AM

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Too much BTM'ing. ;)

f5fstop 06-13-2007 09:19 PM

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For future reference:
15240794 Pad Kit, Frt Disc Brk ? Retail 149.25; trade 111.94;
15240812 Pad Kit, RR Disc Brk ? Retail 137.72; trade 103.29

Pads do not show as being used on any other GM vehicle. So, for the limited number out there, non-OEM pads may not be produced...yet.

partsguy 06-13-2007 10:01 PM

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Checked aftermarket, no such critter as of yet.

NEOCON1 06-13-2007 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sewie
Too much BTM'ing. ;)




:giggling: :crying: :giggling: :perfect10s:

HummBebe 06-14-2007 02:34 AM

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Thank F5 and parts guy....f-off Sewie and Neo :fdance:

BTW, they offerd me a loaner today...seems as if there MAY be some tranny trouble.

I was telling Sewie when I was following him down a steep muddy incline in Hollister I had it in 1st/low, the truck seemed like it was coasting. When I stopped and put it into second the engine braking returned....so....tranny time?

Makes me wanna :blech:

fourfourto 06-14-2007 02:47 AM

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Your at 52k what about warranty with trans :crying: ?

HummBebe 06-14-2007 02:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fourfourto
Your at 52k what about warranty with trans :crying: ?


The symptoms started at 49K, I have the GMPP, but so far they haven't said yet whether or not they will cover it......but they did offer a loaner, could be a goodwill thing...could be a "feel sorry for her" thing.

I will probably hear tomorrow when I go pick up my loaner.

I doubt I'll get much sleep tonight.:crying:

Steve - SanJose 06-14-2007 06:44 AM

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tranny problems, there's a new one....

f5fstop 06-14-2007 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
I was telling Sewie when I was following him down a steep muddy incline in Hollister I had it in 1st/low, the truck seemed like it was coasting. When I stopped and put it into second the engine braking returned....so....tranny time?

Makes me wanna :blech:


Say hello to a new "overrun" clutch. If it slips in manual first gear, that is the component I would say is failing. Could be first clutch housing, but that manual first slipping?????

It should be covered under the extended warranty, and if you didn't have an extended warranty, with enough barking, GM/Hummer might cover most of it or all of it; especially since you have maintenance stuff done at the dealer. (It does pay at times to pay the dealer for customer pay items.)

Sewie 06-14-2007 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
Say hello to a new "overrun" clutch. If it slips in manual first gear, that is the component I would say is failing. Could be first clutch housing, but that manual first slipping?????


She has an auto.

HummBebe 06-14-2007 10:26 PM

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Valve Body.....:popcorn:

HummBebe 06-14-2007 10:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sewie
She has an auto.


Yes and auto's have overrun clutches...http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ssion_rebuild/

HummBebe 06-14-2007 10:49 PM

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Looks like a brain to mee....sad, my trucks guts are prolly everywhare:crying:

Sewie 06-14-2007 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
Yes and auto's have overrun clutches...http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ssion_rebuild/


Doh! :o

I just kept seeing manual, manual. That's what I get for not paying attention. :OWNED:

BTW, quit braking sh*t on your truck. Now who am I supposed to go wheeling with this weekend? :mad:

HummBebe 06-14-2007 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sewie
Doh! :o

I just kept seeing manual, manual. That's what I get for not paying attention. :OWNED:

BTW, quit braking sh*t on your truck. Now who am I supposed to go wheeling with this weekend? :mad:


We still have the cruiser...and of course the BULLIES!!!

HummBebe 06-14-2007 11:54 PM

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Oh yeah....and I'm picking up a loaner.....:jump: :jump: :jump:

f5fstop 06-15-2007 12:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe


Looks like a brain to mee....sad, my trucks guts are prolly everywhare:crying:


Easy repair, a lot easier than an overrun clutch, which requires trans R&R, then disassembly. The valvebody is removed by simply removing the oil pan and quite a few bolts.

Not there, so not sure, but is it the complete valvebody or some of the internal valves, that are replaceable?
Strange an entire valvebody goes. Oh well, important it gets fixed.

HummBebe 06-15-2007 03:01 AM

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Part is being overnighted...will have my HUMMER back tomorrow.:excited:

H2 BULLY 06-15-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Time for New Brake pads
 
So then the Hummer will hopefully be going this weekend!!:excited:

NEOCON1 06-15-2007 01:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
Part is being overnighted...will have my HUMMER back tomorrow.:excited:


:beerchug:

HummBebe 06-15-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Time for New Brake pads
 
Yep! It should be ready.

I have to tell you, I walked into the shop last night to get my cell charger out of my truck...I have NO IDEA how those guys work in those conditions. It was 104 here yesterday and that shop could not have been much cooler.

Just awful.:rant:

HummBebe 06-15-2007 10:32 PM

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No truck for me today.....:(

Probably not until Tuesday...:(

H3slate 06-15-2007 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
No truck for me today.....:(

Probably not unit Tuesday...:(


Are they installing your new Fox shocks for you too? :excited:

HummBebe 06-15-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Time for New Brake pads
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3slate
Are they installing your new Fox shocks for you too? :excited:


No, those are in Reno at the moment, I need my truck to go git 'em.


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