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BigBill 08-17-2007 08:06 PM

Off Road Knowledge
 
I am new to the Hummer world with the purchase of my 2007 H3, which I posted a few photos in the H3 photo section. I would like to learn more about the vehicle from an off road perspective. Where would I learn this? Specifically using the 4WD controls and building confidence for what the Hummer can and can't do.

I am planning on going to a trail event in Iowa sponsored by my dealer but I also see that Lynch Hummer puts on events as well which are probably more intense! Someday I wouldn't mind enrolling in the driving academy put on by Lynch as well as volunteering in HOPE. Does anyone know if there's a Hummer Club in KC? I pretty much know the answer and wish I were back in my home state - Colorado!

As always, thanks!

Bill

usetosellhummer 08-17-2007 08:16 PM

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Bill, I am a former Hummer sales professional. I have attened the driving school several times at the H1/H2 plant near South Bend IN. Lynch is the best place close to you and your dealer should help you with get to know you stuff with an off-road Hummer Happening. It is also good to look on the net or in the area for the local hang out for jeepers. I wheel local with a jeep club to keep my skills up and feed the need for off roading my H3. Start out slow and if you join the club our events are the only ones supported by AM General and area dealers with trail techs and parts. All Hummer events have trails to fit your skill level. Happy Hummering

usetosellhummer 08-17-2007 08:47 PM

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oops yea

CO Hummer 08-17-2007 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by usetosellhummer
I have attened the driving school several times at the H1/H2 plant near South Bend IN.


How many times before you passed?

marin8703 08-17-2007 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by usetosellhummer
Bill, I am a former Hummer sales professional. I have attened the driving school several times at the H1/H2 plant near South Bend IN. Lynch is the best place close to you and your dealer should help you with get to know you stuff with an off-road Hummer Happening. It is also good to look on the net or in the area for the local hang out for jeepers. I wheel local with a jeep club to keep my skills up and feed the need for off roading my H3. Start out slow and if you join the club our events are the only ones supported by AM General and area dealers with trail techs and parts. All Hummer events have trails to fit your skill level. Happy Hummering


:iagree: going to dealer events and hummer happenings is probably the best way to learn what and how you can do. you will see others do things and you will know its possible which will give you more confidence to try it. my advise is dont try to do everything right away. take i a lil at a time otherwise you may damage you truck. theres jeepers all over the place, thres gota be some in KC, their like roaches.:D

DennisAJC 08-17-2007 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CO Hummer
How many times before you passed?


Never.

He always got stuck at the coffee and donut table.

H3slate 08-17-2007 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marin8703
:iagree: going to dealer events and hummer happenings is probably the best way to learn what and how you can do. you will see others do things and you will know its possible which will give you more confidence to try it. my advise is dont try to do everything right away. take i a lil at a time otherwise you may damage you truck. theres jeepers all over the place, thres gota be some in KC, their like roaches.:D


:iagree: Also look in your owners manual for directions on how to use the push button controls for your 4wd.

BigBill 08-17-2007 09:41 PM

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There are Jeep clubs here in Kansas City and actually work with a few guys that belong to it. They know I have a H3 but are willing to have me along!

Dennis, I just watched your Hummer Tribute video and think it is by far the best video on the subject! I sent it to my Jeep friend for his viewing!

I tried a few small hills here and the truck did well. Sometimes I want to try something small and get a little nervous. I need some training wheels with an expert! As always I am more than willing to listen and learn.

Bill

BigBill 08-17-2007 09:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by H3slate
Also look in your owners manual for directions on how to use the push button controls for your 4wd.


:iagree: - kind of like, RTFM!! I have done that and will continue to do so. Is there any more detailed information on the net?

DennisAJC 08-17-2007 09:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBill
Dennis, I just watched your Hummer Tribute video and think it is by far the best video on the subject! I sent it to my Jeep friend for his viewing!



A man who enjoys a good joke.:beerchug:

usetosellhummer 08-17-2007 09:48 PM

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It's a Hummer School dope, Danish and Starbucks what kind of Hummer owner are you Dennis, :beerchug:

DennisAJC 08-17-2007 09:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by usetosellhummer
It's a Hummer School dope, Danish and Starbucks what kind of Hummer owner are you Dennis, :beerchug:


Same.

Except I wheel an H2 and I'm 700 lbs lighter than you.

usetosellhummer 08-17-2007 09:55 PM

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more of me to love baby:p
you like the big boy come on face it.

KenP 08-17-2007 09:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBill
I tried a few small hills here and the truck did well. Sometimes I want to try something small and get a little nervous. I need some training wheels with an expert! As always I am more than willing to listen and learn.

Bill

Watch for the Moab trips. PM Neo for the one in September if you can make that arrangment.

Experience or none, it's a good time and you'll meet some pretty big dumb asses.:giggling: ;) Always a good time.

DennisAJC 08-17-2007 10:04 PM

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But be careful.

NEO carries a pair of scissors with him and does this weird ritual everytime they do a bypass.

If you value your pubic hair, watch him like a hawk.

BigBill 08-17-2007 10:04 PM

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I have seen some videos of Moab but mostly with H2's; how does the H3 stand up? I was just checking out some of the smaller clips off of Dennis' YouTube collection and there are some pretty interesting clips of the "dumb asses" trying to do things with some pretty interesting vehicle modifications!

Bill

BigBill 08-17-2007 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP
Watch for the Moab trips. PM Neo for the one in September if you can make that arrangment.

Experience or none, it's a good time and you'll meet some pretty big dumb asses.:giggling: ;) Always a good time.


I can only imagine what a trip to Moab would be like! I can't wait to drive to Colorado and take to the trails! I am thinking next summer for sure! I might just make a trip out to Moab and then swing back around and hang out in Colorado!

KenP 08-17-2007 10:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBill
I have seen some videos of Moab but mostly with H2's; how does the H3 stand up? I was just checking out some of the smaller clips off of Dennis' YouTube collection and there are some pretty interesting clips of the "dumb asses" trying to do things with some pretty interesting vehicle modifications!

Bill

Yeah, it's alway fun.

Supposedly the 3's do ok out there, but I've yet to see actual video of one doing Escalator, Potato Salad Hill and Tip Over.

Doesn't really matter as there are bypasses around the most difficult obstacles.

Besides, there are some things you just may not want to do. For instance, I never went up Lion's Back, and it's not hard. Just a drive to the top of a rock... that's real narrow... and real tall... and eats trucks... and stuff like that. Too damn skeered.:o :D

timgco 08-17-2007 11:16 PM

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MOAB= best time I've ever had wheelin!!!!!!!

Throw some more 35's, UC protection, rock rails and you'll have a great time in Moab. Also get a spare tierod assembly and tools to change them.

With those mods, you cna have tons of fun in Moab. The H3's do very well in Moab. Being you first time there, you may not want to do some of the harder options, but it sure is fun to watch at the same time. Most every trail there has ways around the harder stuff.

An it is true, Neo is a great guy to go with, a little strange, but fun to wheel with. :D

marin8703 08-17-2007 11:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisAJC
But be careful.

NEO carries a pair of scissors with him and does this weird ritual everytime they do a bypass.

If you value your pubic hair, watch him like a hawk.


:giggling:

OldHiker 08-17-2007 11:49 PM

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Neo is a good guy. He actually allowed an H2 owner to come into his house during a downpour!;)

KenP 08-18-2007 12:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OldHiker
Neo is a good guy. He actually allowed an H2 owner to come into his house during a downpour!;)

If it's raining, and I'm covered in mud, can I go into your new place to wait out the storm?:p

OldHiker 08-18-2007 12:09 AM

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Only if you can catch me!

KenP 08-18-2007 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OldHiker
Only if you can catch me!

:jump: :excited: :excited: :jump:

blindzebra 08-18-2007 12:41 AM

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Hey bill did you go to college at bgsu?

yat74 08-18-2007 05:27 AM

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Pops nice Avatar, is that a chipmunk? :perfect10s:

tower 08-18-2007 09:10 AM

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Big Bill, I went on a trip with some friends from this site and learned quite a bit. There are some really knowlegeable wheelers here.

Later, I took a course from an extraordinary guy who has no vehicle bias. His name is Bill Burke and he is, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable authority on off-roading. Period. You can find him here:

http://www.bb4wa.com/bill/bill.htm



Drainbamaged 08-18-2007 09:36 AM

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During the June Moab Trip i went to Neo and a few other H3's went up Tipover Challenge and Wipeout Hill with no problems. There was also a H3 that went up Golden steps with no external help and also finished golden spike with no problems. H3's are very capeable vehicles and they can do alot of things that I would have never expected them to do.

KenP 08-18-2007 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drainbamaged
During the June Moab Trip i went to Neo and a few other H3's went up Tipover Challenge and Wipeout Hill with no problems. There was also a H3 that went up Golden steps with no external help and also finished golden spike with no problems. H3's are very capeable vehicles and they can do alot of things that I would have never expected them to do.

That's awesome! I can't wait to see some video of this and all the other claims out there.

It'd really shut up the Heep crowd.:excited:

BigBill 08-18-2007 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP
That's awesome! I can't wait to see some video of this and all the other claims out there.

It'd really shut up the Heep crowd.:excited:


Has anyone seen videos of H3's doing their part?

BigBill 08-18-2007 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drainbamaged
During the June Moab Trip i went to Neo and a few other H3's went up Tipover Challenge and Wipeout Hill with no problems. There was also a H3 that went up Golden steps with no external help and also finished golden spike with no problems. H3's are very capeable vehicles and they can do alot of things that I would have never expected them to do.



Has a H3 been up and down Lionsback? I think that would be awesome to see and in the future do, either driving it or riding in a H2! Just a curious thought here on Lionsback - I take it you don't ride your brakes going down it? How do you drive something like that?

deserth3 08-18-2007 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBill
Has a H3 been up and down Lionsback? I think that would be awesome to see and in the future do, either driving it or riding in a H2! Just a curious thought here on Lionsback - I take it you don't ride your brakes going down it? How do you drive something like that?


Put her in 4 low, lock the differencial if you have one and put the truck in 1st gear. The H3 crawls great.
But Loins Back is closed.

BigBill 08-18-2007 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deserth3
Put her in 4 low, lock the differencial if you have one and put the truck in 1st gear. The H3 crawls great.
But Loins Back is closed.


I do have the off-road package with the locking differential. Why is it closed?

BST1YET 08-19-2007 02:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBill
I'm working on a trip down to the Kansas Rock Park - http://www.ksrockspark.com sometime in early September hopefully with some other people that were also interested on the Hummer X forum. The park is only about 1.5 hours from KC so it is relatively close.

I have read that extra parts are always a good thing! Other than the stealership, where would I get these parts? I saw something about tie rods. Are the ones in the H3 robust or do they break easily?

For long trips into the boonies, like Moab, what do people do for fuel?

Bill


Bill,

I am in the KC area, Overland Park to be specific. I take it you have talked to KSTreker about a trip down to KS Rocks over Labor Day or some time early Sept. There are only a few of us Hummer owners in KC that are okay with getting their trucks dirty. Everyone else seems to be all about the bling (especially around here in OP and Leahood)

deserth3 08-19-2007 02:13 AM

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Lions Back is on private land. The new owners don't want to deal with the liability issues.

DennisAJC 08-19-2007 02:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deserth3
But Loins Back is closed.


What gay adventure park do you wheel? :giggling:

KenP 08-19-2007 05:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BST1YET
Bill,

I am in the KC area, Overland Park to be specific. I take it you have talked to KSTreker about a trip down to KS Rocks over Labor Day or some time early Sept. There are only a few of us Hummer owners in KC that are okay with getting their trucks dirty. Everyone else seems to be all about the bling (especially around here in OP and Leahood)

Get in touch with marcmedic. He's out there and only busy on race weekends.;)

KenP 08-19-2007 05:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NEOCON1
dont buy into all the H2ers negative vibes , we can do alot more than they will ever admit :giggling: :giggling:

check it out http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=26267

Hey NEO, I know you're doing a ton of wheeling there and that's great, but where's the vids of PSH and Escalator? We keep hearing about it being done in a 3, but haven't seen it. Just pics of a 3 at the bottom and at the top.

We need vids!!!

BTW, did you answer the question about the SFA 3 in FL? Looks awesome.:beerchug:

deserth3 08-19-2007 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisAJC
What gay adventure park do you wheel? :giggling:


A better one than you amature. Are you going to delete this post too?

DennisAJC 08-19-2007 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deserth3
Fixed:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

Your an AMATURE:D



OMG!!!! A newbie calling another an amateur.:jump:


We still don't have ANY video footage of H3s COMPLETING ANYTHING in Moab. Potato Salad? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:OWNED:

And what is Loin's Back? A gay man's 69er? You're not a newb at that I'm sure.:confused::OWNED:


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