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ctluba 11-13-2007 04:54 PM

Spare Tire question.
 
I just mounted 285s on my H3 and did not get a 5th one for the spare. I still have the 265 mounted on the spare and plan to get the 285 on that next month. If I get a flat tomorrow can I use the 265 to get home or would that cause damage?

wpage 11-13-2007 08:42 PM

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How far and how fast do you estimate traveling:beerchug: that way?

ctluba 11-14-2007 05:35 AM

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Based upon info I gathered I plan to travel 0 miles at 0 miles per hour. I was told it would not be a good idea at all and would cause damage. I will just mount the larger spare. If I get a flat before then I call tow!!!!!

wpage 11-14-2007 03:03 PM

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That correct. If you didn't your rig would be unbalanced and could be damaged dependent on variables.

Texas Red 11-14-2007 04:41 PM

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Interesting. I was wondering the same thing if I go to 285's on my next set of tires.

Dave92270 11-14-2007 05:21 PM

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that is interesting... Maybe my Hummer dealer is dumb, but when I was ordering my 285's (33") from them while ago, they suggested to keep the 265 (32") as a spare. I rejected the idea and got all 5 the same size, however I noticed the dealer actually sells some of their H3s with non-matching/smaller tire as a spare. I saw at least one H3 on the lot with four 285's mounted and 265 spare.

My guess is that slightly smaller (let say 1" difference?) spare is OK as long as one doesn't have to drive too far or for extended period of time?

Viet Nam Vette 11-14-2007 05:55 PM

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I kwow that on a Corvette, it's a bad idea to mout a smaller diameter tire on the rear as a spare, as the Vette has a positraction rear axle. It would cause the the posi clutches to activate in the rear and burn them out while traveling in a straight line since one tire's outside diameter is smaller then the other.

In other words, the rear diff would think it's turning a corner. Now.if the H3's diff has posi clutches..it's a No-No..!! Not sure if the 3's diff's are posi..??

Are they..???

Texas Red 11-14-2007 07:17 PM

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What about all those cars that come with a compact size spares? If I remember, they have a qualifier -- like "45 mph and 50 miles." I'm having trouble seeing how a 1" smaller diameter spare could be a problem if only used "sparingly". LOL.

Viet Nam Vette 11-14-2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Red
What about all those cars that come with a compact size spares? If I remember, they have a qualifier -- like "45 mph and 50 miles." I'm having trouble seeing how a 1" smaller diameter spare could be a problem if only used "sparingly". LOL.



I think those are still the same outside diameter as the oiginal tire...just thinner.

:beerchug:

RubHer Yellow Ducky 11-14-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Red
What about all those cars that come with a compact size spares? If I remember, they have a qualifier -- like "45 mph and 50 miles." I'm having trouble seeing how a 1" smaller diameter spare could be a problem if only used "sparingly". LOL.


you right, if its just for an emergency use the 265 till you can get the tire that went flat repaired. You just don't want to go hundreds of miles on the 2 different sizes...

TXSUT 11-15-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
I think those are still the same outside diameter as the oiginal tire...just thinner.



Wrong, they are quite a bit smaller in diameter as well as being thinner. And worrying about using a 265 with 285s temporarily is just ridiculous.

TXSUT 11-15-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
I kwow that on a Corvette...has a positraction rear axle.


Wrong there, too. Corvettes come standard with a limited-slip differential.

Don't think I've ever seen so much misinformation in one thread. :giggling:

Viet Nam Vette 11-15-2007 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSUT
Wrong there, too. Corvettes come standard with a limited-slip differential.

Don't think I've ever seen so much misinformation in one thread. :giggling:


Wrong.. I own a 65 Corvette with a ZZ502 BB with Posi. Go on any Corvette forum and mention using a smaller diameter tire on one side on the rear with a Posi axle and see what kind of reaction you get.

And for your information .."Limited Slip" And "Posi Traction" are the same thing.

If you know how a posi works then you know that when one wheel slips, it slips against the internal posi clutches when traveling in a straight line. If you use a smaller diameter rear tire on a Corvette on one side of the rear, the clutches will slip all the time and burn up. Both wheels have to turn at the same speed to prevent the posi from engauging.

:fdance:

That's not missinformation ..But Fact


Don't think I've seen so much miss information from you.:giggling:

TXSUT 11-15-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
And for your information .."Limited Slip" And "Posi Traction" are the same thing.



That I know. I put my damn smilie face in the wrong place. :mad:

I was just trying to mess with you (GM stopped calling it a Positrac quite a while back), because even on a "positrac" rear end, using a smaller diameter tire for a short distance won't hurt anything....Vette forums be damned! LOL

I've owned 3 Vettes, so I know just a *little* about them. ;)

Viet Nam Vette 11-15-2007 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSUT
That I know. I put my damn smilie face in the wrong place. :mad:

I was just trying to mess with you (GM stopped calling it a Positrac quite a while back), because even on a "positrac" rear end, using a smaller diameter tire for a short distance won't hurt anything.

I've owned 3 Vettes, so I know just a *little* about them. ;)


I've owned 9 Vette's in my time and hang on a Corvette forum where one of it's members is "John Z". John was a Drive Line Engineer back in the 60's and worked under "Zora" on the Corvette.

The spare tire topic came up once and went thru 2-3 pages. Most guys now use radial tires on there Mid-Years..(63-67) Corvettes. The problem is that that a spare radial doesn't fit flush in the spare tire carrier under the car. It hangs down due to it's thickness and in some cases it's diameter.

Someone posted the question about using a tire that was smaller in diameter then what he had on the car. John addressed what I have typed in regaurds to damaging the clutches. In other words...It's a Bad Idea.

Going a 100 feet or so might be ok, but remember...those clutches get hot fast and will burn up if the axle doesn't lock up.

When John Z talks..... Everyone listens..

:beerchug:

TXSUT 11-16-2007 01:21 AM

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This horse is dead. ;) :beerchug:

While I have your attention though, let me thank you for your service to our Country...and I do mean that seriously and sincerely. (We need a US Flag emoticon on this website.)

Pete

Viet Nam Vette 11-16-2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TXSUT
This horse is dead. ;) :beerchug:

While I have your attention though, let me thank you for your service to our Country...and I do mean that seriously and sincerely. (We need a US Flag emoticon on this website.)

Pete


Thanks Pete... I Appreciate that, Thank You.:beerchug:

tower 11-16-2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
The problem is that that a spare radial doesn't fit flush in the spare tire carrier under the car. It hangs down due to it's thickness and in some cases it's diameter. :beerchug:

I guess that means you can't take your 'vette off road. :giggling::giggling::giggling:
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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
thank you for your service to our Country...and I do mean that seriously and sincerely.x1,000,000


Viet Nam Vette 11-16-2007 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tower
I guess that means you can't take your 'vette off road. :giggling::giggling::giggling:


Only when you put your foot in it ..in first gear..Then your off road.:OWNED:


tower 11-16-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
Only when you put your foot in it ..in first gear..Then your off road.:OWNED:


Rats! :giggling::giggling::giggling:

TXSUT 11-16-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
I own a 65 Corvette


Got any pics you can post...would LOVE to see it!

Viet Nam Vette 11-16-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSUT
Got any pics you can post...would LOVE to see it!


Here's one before the 502 Conversion...




Dec 2006 After the 502 Install Which was completed in 2004.





TXSUT 11-16-2007 06:16 PM

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Absolutely gorgeous. Can someone hand me a towel.

Viet Nam Vette 11-16-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tower
Rats! :giggling::giggling::giggling:


Hence the Term .."Rat Motor"...:jump:

Viet Nam Vette 11-16-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSUT
Absolutely gorgeous. Can someone hand me a towel.


Thanks Pete..:beerchug:

TXSUT 11-16-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vette
Thanks Pete..:beerchug:


Thanks for posting the pics. The '65 has been on my wish list forever...it was the year I was born. I will have one some day in the not-to-distant future.

H3less 11-16-2007 07:13 PM

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Beauuutifullllllll ...I need one of those, the best styling of all the vette years in my eyes.

Also, Thanks for all that you have done for our country and making it so nice for the rest of us.:perfect10s:

wpage 11-18-2007 07:21 PM

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Very Nice Red Vette!!!!!!!:grouphug:

Hal 11-19-2007 09:39 PM

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Thanks for posting the pics. The '65 has been on my wish list forever...it was the year I was born. I will have one some day in the not-to-distant future.

I just saw a white convertable '65 for sale in Moultrie Georgia they were only asking $89,900.00. Do you want the phone number?

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(sorry this thread is getting so off topic)

Hal 11-19-2007 09:57 PM

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But to address the spare tire question.... a small difference in diameter would obviously mean rotation at a different speed for that axle... wouldn't that be just the same if you happen to be driving on snow or ice or a very winding road? I have no doubt that any vehicle could handle that without regard to miles driven at normal operating speeds.


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