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Spidey 03-07-2005 04:56 AM

Well while I'm here I may as well share what's been pissing me off for awhile . Personally I think the H3 is Bull****. It shouldn't have been made. I think by bringing out such a model cheapens & takes away from the awesome reputation the Hummer currently has. I feel we are being sold out to MARKETING !!
Too Bad always for the all mighty buck !!!

Spidey 03-07-2005 04:56 AM

Well while I'm here I may as well share what's been pissing me off for awhile . Personally I think the H3 is Bull****. It shouldn't have been made. I think by bringing out such a model cheapens & takes away from the awesome reputation the Hummer currently has. I feel we are being sold out to MARKETING !!
Too Bad always for the all mighty buck !!!

KenP 03-07-2005 05:53 AM

I believe many H1 owners felt the same way about the H2 that you feel about the H3. Well, the H2 proved them wrong. The H2 did not take away from the brand in any way.

You are being premature. Time will tell.

andski 03-07-2005 06:54 AM

THANK YOU KenP!!! I get a bit worked up when H2 owners act as though they made HUMMER. It is akin to thinking the only real Benz is the SL65. It is one hell of a car, but there is more to the brand. Yes H2 is a great ride and it has really helped the HUMMER name. There is more to HUMMER than H2. HUMMER is H1, H2, and now H3. Hummer was around LONG before H2 and will be around LONG AFTER H3. If you truely want to be an ambassador to the brand, you shound be happy that more people will be able to experience what HUMMER is!!! WELCOME H3 and H3 owners!!!

Spidey 03-07-2005 09:44 AM

Quote " believe many H1 owners felt the same way about the H2 that you feel about the H3. Well, the H2 proved them wrong. The H2 did not take away from the brand in any way.

You are being premature. Time will tell."

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Quote " THANK YOU KenP!!! I get a bit worked up when H2 owners act as though they made HUMMER. It is akin to thinking the only real Benz is the SL65. It is one hell of a car, but there is more to the brand. Yes H2 is a great ride and it has really helped the HUMMER name. There is more to HUMMER than H2. HUMMER is H1, H2, and now H3. Hummer was around LONG before H2 and will be around LONG AFTER H3. If you truely want to be an ambassador to the brand, you shound be happy that more people will be able to experience what HUMMER is!!! WELCOME H3 and H3 owners!!! "

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YEAH WELL KEEP IN MIND FELLOWS THAT WE WERE MEANT TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THE START EXAMPLE -- WE ARE GAS
H1'S DESIEL & MORE ARMY ---- COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CLASS VEHICLES. H2's WERE A GAMBLE AS BEING THE 1ST OF
IT"S KIND THE PROTO TYPE FOR THE LARGE RUGGED SUV. NOT A FASHION MODEL STATEMENT. I THINK IT CHEAPENS
BOTH THE HUMMERS AND H2'S NAME ALIKE. WHERE AS WE PUT HUMMER RIGHT BACK ON THE MAP. IN ADDITION TO THAT
CONSIDER ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW ---- HOW LONG DID THE H1'S ROAM OUR PLANET SOLO BEFORE THE H2'S CAME ???
DO NOT US HANDFUL OF FAITHFUL PATRIOCHS RIGHTFULLY DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE IN A FEW MORE YEARS OF GLORY
RATHER THEN BE SOLD AS THE FAD OF THE EARLY NEW CENTURY AND POSSIBLY THE NEXT GLOBAL NOVELTY ACT.
AND DON'T SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN ---- OH IT CAN. GEEEEE LET ME THINK --- HOW POPULAR WERE H1'S JUST BEFORE
WE CAME OUT. FACE IT YOU CAN GO FROM TOP TO BOTTOM QUICK . MAKE TYHE H3 RUN ON ELECTRIC OR SOLAR STEAM
AND MAKE IT THE BEST IN THAT CLASS THEN YOU'LL EARN MY THUMBS UP AND HAVE MY APPROVAL. I'M CONVINCED THE
MANAGEMENT RISKED SELLING US OUT FOR DOUGH NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. INSIDE I DO BELIEVE THAT H2 WILL HOLD ITS OWN
I JUST THINK IT'S GARBAGE AND WHY MORE STINK HASN'T BE RAISED BY IT ????

devilsfan 03-07-2005 11:34 AM

The way I look at it, there will be more Hummer lovers on the road and less haters. I think the H2 was brilliant, and we were just INCREDIBLY lucky that we were in a position to afford one. 5 years ago, there'd be no chance in hell I'd be driving this truck, but an H3 would have been in my price range. I see the H3 as a Good Thing....there are tons of people who love the Hummer as much as the H2 and H1 owners, but simply can't afford the truck. That shouldn't be held against them. I'm looking forward to seeing more Hummers on the road....I might see 1-2 a week I can flash my lights at, I can't wait to welcome more folks to the Hummer family!

Stacy

PARAGON 03-07-2005 12:02 PM

Well, personally, I think you are one of the stupid ****birds who should have your hummer ownership immediately and permanently revoked. What the hell is this stupid **** about, "HANDFUL OF FAITHFUL PATRIOCHS DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE IN A FEW MORE YEARS OF GLORY
RATHER THEN BE SOLD AS THE FAD OF THE EARLY NEW CENTURY AND POSSIBLY THE NEXT GLOBAL NOVELTY ACT."

Guy, if this is what has been bothering you for a while, a new life is in order for you. What other people buy and own should no more affect you as a Hummer owner as it should the stupid eco-idiots. You are worse than the eco-idiots because you don't even have a reason that is in the realm of logic for not wanting a vehicle produced.

Get off your self-centered high-horse of an ass and enjoy the vehicle you have and quit worrying about how what someone else drive's effects your fragile juvenile psyche.

Spidey 03-07-2005 12:25 PM

PARAGON -- God you are so predicable. It must be hell living in such a small world.If you look at it it makes proper sense. MANY BUY ITEMS THAT HAVE LTD PRINTS. MOST OF THE WORLD BUYS LABELS OF QUALITY. I LIKE TO BUY ITEMS WHERE I FEEL THAT MY MONEY IS WELL INVESTED.I JUST SEE A COMPANY TRYING TO CASH IN ON THE HYPE HERE.

Spike 03-07-2005 12:32 PM

originally posted by spidey,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">DO NOT US HANDFUL OF FAITHFUL PATRIOCHS RIGHTFULLY DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE IN A FEW MORE YEARS OF GLORY
RATHER THEN BE SOLD AS THE FAD OF THE EARLY NEW CENTURY AND POSSIBLY THE NEXT GLOBAL NOVELTY ACT. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He's quite mad you know...

PARAGON 03-07-2005 12:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
PARAGON -- God you are so predicable. It must be hell living in such a small world.If you look at it it makes proper sense. MANY BUY ITEMS THAT HAVE LTD PRINTS. MOST OF THE WORLD BUYS LABELS OF QUALITY. I LIKE TO BUY ITEMS WHERE I FEEL THAT MY MONEY IS WELL INVESTED.I JUST SEE A COMPANY TRYING TO CASH IN ON THE HYPE HERE. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok, the most logical thing you have said. Predictable means that one can expect what my opinion would be. That one can predict that I will respond to stupidity and ignorance. Thanks for the compliment.

You are joking about the rest though. You buy labeled items or common vehicles as an INVESTMENT. Well the stupidity makes complete sense. Crawl back into your hole and find somewhere else to be dumb.

You spent somewhere around $50k. What kind of exclusivity are you expecting at that price. Get the stick out of your ass!

PARAGON 03-07-2005 12:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
PARAGON -- God you are so predicable. It must be hell living in such a small world. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah and you are about as wordly as a worm.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
If you look at it it makes proper sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well I can see how some bassackwards crap like this would make sense to you. Buying a label instead of buying for quality or the many other reasons to buy an item. I am afraid you sir are the little boy in the small world. Running around and buying clothes, cars, or whatever just because of the name that's branded on it. That is some deep thinking **** right there.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
MANY BUY ITEMS THAT HAVE LTD PRINTS. MOST OF THE WORLD BUYS LABELS OF QUALITY. I LIKE TO BUY ITEMS WHERE I FEEL THAT MY MONEY IS WELL INVESTED.I JUST SEE A COMPANY TRYING TO CASH IN ON THE HYPE HERE. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NJ H2 03-07-2005 12:54 PM


Klaus 03-07-2005 01:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Well I can see how some bassackwards crap like this would make sense to you. Buying a label instead of buying for quality or the many other reasons to buy an item. I am afraid you sir are the little boy in the small world. Running around and buying clothes, cars, or whatever just because of the name that's branded on it. That is some deep thinking **** right there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't hold back Paragon... Tell him what you really think!

PARAGON 03-07-2005 01:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
Don't hold back Paragon... Tell him what you really think! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, I'm saving up. There is still more to explore here, like comments such as "I feel we are being sold out to MARKETING" but he turns around and talks about buying because of a label that is popular due only to marketing. Things like marketing is the only reason he drives the H2. Aaaah, hypocrisy.... I so love to bash.

Fastest H-Town Realtor 03-07-2005 01:44 PM

How do I get back the 4 minutes of my life that I spent reading this thread?

Kevin B 03-07-2005 01:59 PM

I, for one, am happy about the H3. I hope it does well in the market place for alot of reasons. The biggest is it speaks loudly about the kind of vehicles I like. The better it does the more money and interest in R&D. You can keep your vanilla looking cars, I want something different.

I agree about giving it more time to see what happens. And one last thing, do you think the H1 Alpha would be here if it wasn't for the sucess of the H2??? Think about it. For all the H1 guys who thought they were "sold out" when they built the H2, your welcome .

Kevin B 03-07-2005 02:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How do I get back the 4 minutes of my life that I spent reading this thread? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you ever get tired of acting (typing) foolish .

Anthony 03-07-2005 02:44 PM

If you like your truck and enjoy owning/driving it, who cares if Hummer comes out with a prius version of the hummer name. Enjoy what you have (hopefully) worked hard to own. Know that you bought it because you wanted it, not because your neighbor was talking about it. If you bought an H2 because of the image it creates, shame on you. I almost didn't buy one because of the image. I didn't want others looking at my wife and I passing judgement without even knowing us.

That being said, I hope future H3 owners enjoy ownership of the vehicle they choose as much I as I have my H2.

DRTYFN 03-07-2005 03:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
Well while I'm here I may as well share what's been pissing me off for awhile . Personally I think the H3 is Bull****. It shouldn't have been made. I think by bringing out such a model cheapens & takes away from the awesome reputation the Hummer currently has. I feel we are being sold out to MARKETING !!
Too Bad always for the all mighty buck !!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!
What a whining bitch.
Why don't you wait until the H3 hits the street/trail before you condemn it?

Spidey 03-07-2005 03:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">WAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!
What a whining bitch.
Why don't you wait until the H3 hits the street/trail before you condemn it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DRTFYN
iT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH IT AFTER IT HITS THE STREETS.

THE H3 SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT VEHICLE AND HAS A LOT OF THE CAPIBILITIES THE H2 HAS PLUS ITS IRESISTABLE GOOD LOOKS. IT'S GOING TO BE ALOT LESS MONEY. IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WILL
EFFECT DOLLAR VALUE YOUR NUTS. tHE WORLD THRIVES OFF OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
I HOPE I'M WRONG, BUT I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.
I'M JUST BEING HONEST. iF IT WERE MY CHOICE I'D RATHER NOT SEE IT. i THOUGHT THE SUT WAS GREAT !!!

PARAGON 03-07-2005 04:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Anthony:
I hope future H3 owners enjoy ownership of the vehicle they choose as much I as I have my H2. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>My sentiments, exactly.

ShaggyX 03-07-2005 04:39 PM

H3, or no H3...the H2 is still an over-priced, incapable, ugly piece of crap.

Maybe if you are lucky the H3 can save the Hummer name after it was so badly tarnished by the advent of the H2.

NJ H2 03-07-2005 04:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
iT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH IT AFTER IT HITS THE STREETS.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will Spidey sindle handedly stop the production of the H3?? Can he stop shipment to the dealers before H2 owners lose "DOLLAR VALUE"?? Will the "IRESISTABLE GOOD LOOKS" of the H3 send H2 pricing into a downward sprial??
Stay tuned to our next "Spidey Thread"

4churchill 03-07-2005 04:45 PM

the one thing i agree with is a drop in value of used H2's. the H3 will be a viable alternative for those in the used H2 market. many people will go with new over used, even if it isn't exactly what they are looking for.

Spike 03-07-2005 05:03 PM

originally posted by Shaggy,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">H3, or no H3...the H2 is still an over-priced, incapable, ugly piece of crap. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well there you have it.....the "King of Cannabis" has spoken.

bparker 03-07-2005 05:14 PM

OMG, Buwhahahaha!

Paragon, thanks for standing up. Cheers to you.

I respect his "opinion" which I think is hilarious, and here is mine - What a freakin idiot!

timgco 03-07-2005 05:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
This seems like as good a time as any to post pics of a red s10 being dragged off/out of bad situations by the "over-priced, incapable, ugly piece of crap."



S </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It seems to me that my old 03 Over priced, incapable, ugly, piece of crap dragged a certain red S10 out of a hole in moab on our last trip.

timgco 03-07-2005 05:28 PM

As for the H3, i for one am glad this H3 in on the way. i already have one on order!
I must be part of the marketing ploy.

It doesn't bother me one bit that the h3 is on the way. yes it will put a dent in the used market and resale of our h2's, but i didn't buy my SUT with re sale value in mind. i bout the truck becasue i like it. I could care less what others think of the brand recognition. In my eyes, the hummer name is only getting stronger.

just think of all of the sales of the less expensive hummers will bring. This will give more money to GM for future research into brand improvement.

If you truley must own the "Expensive" vehicle on the planet, than you should have bought an H1. In many others eyes, you and I have helped cheapen the brand buy owning the "lesser" hummer.

you will still have the more looked upon vehicle over the H3 in many eyes, but really it should only matter that your H2 is what you want, and not what other perceive you to own.

ShaggyX 03-07-2005 05:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
It seems to me that my old 03 Over priced, incapable, ugly, piece of crap dragged a certain red S10 out of a hole in moab on our last trip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey...that one was because I had crappy spotters who couldn't guide me out of the hole. And if memory serves, no one else had the balls to even try that bowl.

PARAGON 03-07-2005 05:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
It seems to me that my old 03 Over priced, incapable, ugly, piece of crap dragged a certain red S10 out of a hole in moab on our last trip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey...that one was because I had crappy spotters who couldn't guide me out of the hole. And if memory serves, no one else had the balls to even try that bowl. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh crap!!! Let's ask Neil about some crappy spotting.

FreeorDie2 03-07-2005 06:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I LIKE TO BUY ITEMS WHERE I FEEL THAT MY MONEY IS WELL INVESTED. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Spidey, if you want to invest your money, you might try stocks or bonds. . . or older cars that have already bottomed out and are on their way back up in value. (When I was a kid, I bought a '64 Alfa Romeo Guilia Spyder in '68 for $1000. Today, you can't touch one in good shape for uner $15K and pristine examples sell for $30K) Buying a recently produced vehicle is an expense, not an investment.

I like unique vehicles as much or maybe even more than the next guy. My '99 Prowler is holding pretty steady in value right now. But that's because a. They don't make them any more and b. They only made 11,700 of them during it's 5 year run -- it was intended to be a limited production vehicle. Even so, I bought it to DRIVE (well, in top down weather only) and enjoy, not as an "investment."

The H2 will remain a unique vehicle, but the past and continuing volume of production, not the H3, will drive the value of your H2 down. I think the H3 is going to be a neat addition to the hummer line-up.

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ 03-07-2005 06:28 PM

Well if H3 hurts resale for used H2 great for me for a while anyway. When the used get low enough I'll buy another and make My off road rig I've been looking on the net for all the stuff You can get for them. It'll just cost less to do it. You think it will bring down the cost of the aftermarket stuff also? By the time I get well after illness I may have a rig to take to MOAB next year if not sooner. OK Phil start designing something no one has seen or tried. You got the man that will get lined up to do it. I know what would be just as good. A off road H2 designed with the input of all the H2Source forum buddies. OK everybody start gettig wish lists together.
I'm serious!!!
TAZ

OH thanks Phil and Big C for getting me the diff cover and ant. so fast. I was shocked.
I'm headed out to garage to put on ant. It looks so sharp and shiny. also many many times bigger around than factory. I have a smaller polished that is little bigger than factory I'll sell if someone wants it. $20 plus shipping. Now lining up dealer to do the fluid stuff and have them to go back with new diff cover. My guy is sick but better again and will be in Tuesday.

DRTYFN 03-07-2005 06:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spidey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">WAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!
What a whining bitch.
Why don't you wait until the H3 hits the street/trail before you condemn it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DRTFYN
iT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH IT AFTER IT HITS THE STREETS. <span class="ev_code_RED">Uhm... deal with it? Who said anything about dealing with it? I said wait until it comes out before you try to piss on it. </span>

THE H3 SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT VEHICLE AND HAS A LOT OF THE CAPIBILITIES THE H2 HAS PLUS ITS IRESISTABLE GOOD LOOKS. IT'S GOING TO BE ALOT LESS MONEY. <span class="ev_code_RED">You've got a split personality, don't you? </span> IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WILL
EFFECT DOLLAR VALUE<span class="ev_code_RED">(Dollar value domestically or internationally? </span> YOUR NUTS.<span class="ev_code_RED"> My nuts what? On your chin? Homo. </span> tHE WORLD THRIVES OFF OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.<span class="ev_code_RED"> No ****? Thanks for that tidbit. </span>
I HOPE I'M WRONG, BUT I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.<span class="ev_code_RED"> I think you're seriously nuts and I highly doubt that I'm wrong. </span>
I'M JUST BEING HONEST.<span class="ev_code_RED"> No, you're just being a kook. </span> iF IT WERE MY CHOICE I'D RATHER NOT SEE IT.<span class="ev_code_RED"> Then go gouge out your eyes with a pointy stick... God said to do it. Really. </span> i THOUGHT THE SUT WAS GREAT !!! <span class="ev_code_RED">Did you guys hear that? He thought the SUT was great. YAAAAAHHHH!!!! </span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DRTYFN 03-07-2005 06:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
H3, or no H3...the H2 is still an over-priced, incapable, ugly piece of crap.

Maybe if you are lucky the H3 can save the Hummer name after it was so badly tarnished by the advent of the H2. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And you're still a spindly coat hanger, mop-headed rake of a "human". So there.

Your pickup sure saved Chevy.

Albie 03-07-2005 06:44 PM

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whats not to like about this little guy

DRTYFN 03-07-2005 06:52 PM

Here's a link to some very high quality pictures taken by a professional:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...5/m/9891036101

4churchill 03-07-2005 06:57 PM

my mom called me yesterday, and said she wants to be my first H3 customer. Dunno if the old man will foot the bill, but if he does, we may be adding an H3 to the family. I will say this though, anythign which grows the HUMMER brand, and offers more people the same opportunity we were afforded, to join this wonderful group of HUMMER owners, is a good thing. Plus this inline 5 should help spruce up our brand image with the leaf lickers

KenP 03-07-2005 07:31 PM

I am thinking of getting on the list as well. Time will tell. Besides, it looks like they can really do well offroad. It will be fun having H1's, H2's and H3's on the same trail.


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