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DennisAJC 09-28-2005 07:39 PM

Just in case some of you guys missed out the fun with our rival with Jeepers, here's the video linky to some Hummer off-road footage and friendly poking at Jeepers.

Do You Have The Balls To Run These Trails?

HummerNewbie 09-28-2005 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by DennisAJC:
...friendly poking at Jeepers.

As I recall, they didn't take it as friendly poking but I loved the video and the response of those that didn't get it was a joke

KenP 09-28-2005 10:14 PM

Fantastic video, Dennis. A classic for the ages.

DennisAJC 09-29-2005 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by KenP:
Fantastic video, Dennis. A classic for the ages.

I`m gonna get my 30K if I have to take this to the POS H1 section.

crotch_rocket_pilot 09-29-2005 12:53 AM

Love it...as a former jeep owner I didnt take offense. Cant wait to see what my mini-me hummer H3 can do!

DennisAJC 09-29-2005 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by crotch_rocket_pilot:
Love it...as a former jeep owner I didnt take offense. Cant wait to see what my mini-me hummer H3 can do!

There`s nothing mini about your H3. In the general public`s eye, it`s still a monster.

SteveRH 09-29-2005 02:28 AM

DennisAJC, That was wicked man!!!
Very good job on that mate!!!
That was some steep shiznit!!

bparker 09-29-2005 08:54 AM

lol nice vid even though I am a former Jeeper myself.

DennisAJC 09-29-2005 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by bparker:
lol nice vid even though I am a former Jeeper myself.

I think most here were former Jeepers. Myself 8 years and still a loyalist in a small private way.

It's gonna be so cool seeing an H3 action video. I hear GMPartsGuy has one in the works.

ChadYJ92 03-07-2006 05:47 AM

I'm sure that this has been brought up before, but you might want to use actual Jeeps. The very first rig was indeed a Jeep, but then you showed a video of a Toyota pick up. The vehicle you showed going down Lion's Back was a Bronco (those were made by Ford).

"YJ, TJ, Liberty. Same frame, same parts. Same result."
Again, you might want to check your facts. The most obvious differences are that Wranglers use a body over frame configuration, and KJs (that's the abbreviation for a Liberty) use a unibody construction. That means the KJ frame and body are one unit. The KJ also has an IFS (Independent Front Suspension) while all Wranglers are SFA (Solid Front Axle). Your H2 also has IFS. Those are the major differences, but there are still plenty of other differences, not only between different models but different trim levels offer different equipment.

Try again?


The footage of the H2s was pretty decent though. I admit that I was impressed. But I'd still rather spend $28k on a Rubicon than $53 on an H2. The Rubicon has dual lockers, a crawl ratio of 66.4:1 an approach angle of 45.1°a breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 34.4° to the H2's single locker, 33.12:1 crawl ratio approach angle of 40.8° breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 39.6°. For $25k more, you get a better departure angle.

CO Hummer 03-07-2006 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChadYJ92:
I'm sure that this has been brought up before, but you might want to use actual Jeeps. The very first rig was indeed a Jeep, but then you showed a video of a Toyota pick up. The vehicle you showed going down Lion's Back was a Bronco (those were made by Ford).

"YJ, TJ, Liberty. Same frame, same parts. Same result."
Again, you might want to check your facts. The most obvious differences are that Wranglers use a body over frame configuration, and KJs (that's the abbreviation for a Liberty) use a unibody construction. That means the KJ frame and body are one unit. The KJ also has an IFS (Independent Front Suspension) while all Wranglers are SFA (Solid Front Axle). Your H2 also has IFS. Those are the major differences, but there are still plenty of other differences, not only between different models but different trim levels offer different equipment.

Try again?



Ummmm. Please attend the Sarcasm for Dummies workshop before posting again. Thanks.

HummerNewbie 03-07-2006 11:38 AM

Here we go with the cost again

For the extra $25K you get one hell of a lot more than departure angle. Have fun following an H2 from the east coast to Moab and back in comfort.

Sewie 03-07-2006 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by ChadYJ92:
blah blah blah

If you're going to compare cost, then don't forget to add in all the mods for your heep.

DWPC 03-07-2006 07:00 PM

Nevermind

dochummer 03-07-2006 09:25 PM

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spend $28k on a Rubicon than $53 on an H2. The Rubicon has dual lockers, a crawl ratio of 66.4:1 an


dejavu....Please, if you are a noob/troll and would like to post a comment, please visit this thread first....

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...1/m/7841012331

Thank you.

PackerFever 03-07-2006 09:50 PM

Love my H3 but my last two trucks were Cherokees and I have taken them down some bad ass stuff all over Utah and the west...I know they can climb and have a very good creeper gear for decent/climb.

That said, I had a great itme in the desert last week and My H3 has impressed me a lot. Funny Video though. CAn't wait to get back,

DRTYFN 03-07-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by ChadYJ92:
I'm sure that this has been brought up before, but you might want to use actual Jeeps. The very first rig was indeed a Jeep, but then you showed a video of a Toyota pick up. The vehicle you showed going down Lion's Back was a Bronco (those were made by Ford).

"YJ, TJ, Liberty. Same frame, same parts. Same result."
Again, you might want to check your facts. The most obvious differences are that Wranglers use a body over frame configuration, and KJs (that's the abbreviation for a Liberty) use a unibody construction. That means the KJ frame and body are one unit. The KJ also has an IFS (Independent Front Suspension) while all Wranglers are SFA (Solid Front Axle). Your H2 also has IFS. Those are the major differences, but there are still plenty of other differences, not only between different models but different trim levels offer different equipment.

Try again?


The footage of the H2s was pretty decent though. I admit that I was impressed. But I'd still rather spend $28k on a Rubicon than $53 on an H2. The Rubicon has dual lockers, a crawl ratio of 66.4:1 an approach angle of 45.1°a breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 34.4° to the H2's single locker, 33.12:1 crawl ratio approach angle of 40.8° breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 39.6°. For $25k more, you get a better departure angle.


Does this count as a Jeep?

HummerNewbie 03-07-2006 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Does this count as a Jeep?

I believe so

PackerFever 03-07-2006 10:48 PM

ahhh good stuff.

Alan06SUT 03-08-2006 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChadYJ92:
I admit that I was impressed. But I'd still rather spend $28k on a Rubicon than $53 on an H2. The Rubicon has dual lockers, a crawl ratio of 66.4:1 an approach angle of 45.1°a breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 34.4° to the H2's single locker, 33.12:1 crawl ratio approach angle of 40.8° breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 39.6°. For $25k more, you get a better departure angle.


First off, a rubicon will cost more than 28 new. An h2 will be closer to 57-58K. You dont need a better crawl ratio when you have the torque of the 6.0L. The traction control system puts the break on a spinning wheel and sends the toruqe to the axle with traction (90% of the time as good as a locker in front).

With 4 200lb people in a jeep rubicon, you have already exceeded the GVWR rating. Weak in my opinion. Much less can it tow more than a set of training wheels.

Both have their intended buyer, both are excellent off road vehicles:

HUMMER:
is much more comfortable and well equipped for road trips, sex on the fly, intimidating other drivers, burning more fuel, pissing off environmentalists, towing/hauling stuff, breaking tie rods, impressing kids, taking clients/women out in, etc.

JEEP is better for:
parking, fukking up you back when you hit a pothole, having tire size envy, gas mileage, spending a$$ loads on modifying it to fit 37" tires, having sh!tty vaccum operated lockers, knowing your interior sucks, anything I'm missing??

GFY

HummBebe 03-08-2006 04:33 AM

Quote:

JEEP is better for:
parking, fukking up you back when you hit a pothole, having tire size envy, gas mileage, spending a$$ loads on modifying it to fit 37" tires, having sh!tty vaccum operated lockers, knowing your interior sucks, anything I'm missing??

GFY


I could't have said that better myself

Sewie 03-08-2006 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by HummBebe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">JEEP is better for:
parking, fukking up you back when you hit a pothole, having tire size envy, gas mileage, spending a$$ loads on modifying it to fit 37" tires, having sh!tty vaccum operated lockers, knowing your interior sucks, anything I'm missing??

GFY


I could't have said that better myself </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You would have just said the last part.

KenP 03-08-2006 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChadYJ92:
I'm sure that this has been brought up before, but you might want to use actual Jeeps. The very first rig was indeed a Jeep, but then you showed a video of a Toyota pick up. The vehicle you showed going down Lion's Back was a Bronco (those were made by Ford).

"YJ, TJ, Liberty. Same frame, same parts. Same result."
Again, you might want to check your facts. The most obvious differences are that Wranglers use a body over frame configuration, and KJs (that's the abbreviation for a Liberty) use a unibody construction. That means the KJ frame and body are one unit. The KJ also has an IFS (Independent Front Suspension) while all Wranglers are SFA (Solid Front Axle). Your H2 also has IFS. Those are the major differences, but there are still plenty of other differences, not only between different models but different trim levels offer different equipment.

Try again?


The footage of the H2s was pretty decent though. I admit that I was impressed. But I'd still rather spend $28k on a Rubicon than $53 on an H2. The Rubicon has dual lockers, a crawl ratio of 66.4:1 an approach angle of 45.1°a breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 34.4° to the H2's single locker, 33.12:1 crawl ratio approach angle of 40.8° breakover angle of 25.8° and departure angle of 39.6°. For $25k more, you get a better departure angle.

No need to respond. Afterall, his name is Chad and he can't count.

This is way too old and the ghey doesn't get it. That's all. He's not smart enought to catch on.

BTW, ignore all his garbage. The Rubicon and the Liberty share the same platform. Jeep just borrowed the front end from the Talon to make the Rubi appear more trail rated.

oneworld 03-08-2006 07:27 PM

Excellent video, When will we see an H3 clip of the same trails. Please please

ketcat 03-09-2006 02:05 AM

Great video. Well put together.

dank 03-11-2006 05:26 AM

OK now lets all be honest we all know the hummer would of got stuck in the little mud puddle


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