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Albie 09-18-2005 12:04 AM

2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

timgco 09-18-2005 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhilD:
Possible, but the H2 switches to the new GMT900 platform in '08, so I don't see why they would bring out an H2 diesel on the current platform (GMT800), unless they are going to go to the 900 a year early or maybe just to help generate some extra income, the diesel would be popular. It is not unheard of for manufacturers to bring out "special" editions before a model change.

I'd fell pretty "special" if I had a Duramax H2.

VTSTOMPER 09-18-2005 12:44 AM

It will happen in 2007...late 2007, and it will be a 2008 new model!

DRTYFN 09-18-2005 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Albie:
2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

Source or die!!!

DRTYFN 09-18-2005 02:41 AM

I bet you got it from here:
http://motortrend.com/future/spied/1...vf/index5.html

Not exactly rock solid credibility.

Albie 09-18-2005 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Albie:
2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

Source or die!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

not sure. I googled it.....it was like on page 3 or 4

DRTYFN 09-18-2005 01:25 PM

Google sucks.

Try http://www.vivisimo.com MUCH BETTER. Results are returned in folders so you don't have to look at eleventeenzillion random scattered items.

J 03-11-2006 04:50 AM

General Motors has big plans for the smallest truck in its Hummer lineup.

GM intends to offer V-8 and diesel versions of the mid-sized H3 SUV.

Two sources inside GM say the automaker is in the early stages of preparing to offer an H3 with a 5.3-liter V-8.

"It's another couple of years out," said one source at GM, who asked to not be named.

Hummer will add a diesel engine to the H3 later, the source said.

The SUV comes with GM's Vortec 3500 3.5-liter inline five-cylinder engine, which delivers 220 hp. The automaker also will build a special-edition H2.

At the Dealer Business Conference in Las Vegas last week, GM executives told Hummer dealers that 150 special editions of the full-sized H2 will be built in the first quarter of next year. Those vehicles will offer more "bling" factor than the regular H2s, said Jacques Moore, of Moore Cadillac-Hummer-Saab-Subaru in Richmond, Va.


The special editions will feature at least two new colors: Pacific Blue and Fusion Orange, Moore said.

He said Hummer also vowed to remedy blind spots in the H2 by installing rear-view cameras in the special-edition models.

Source: Auto Week

VTSTOMPER 03-11-2006 01:17 PM

Those H2's are already out!

DennisAJC 03-11-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Albie:
2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

SOLD!!!!! Calling dealership owner to put me on the list that does not exist yet.

ALPHA!!!!!

DennisAJC 03-11-2006 03:51 PM

LMAO!!!!

Those were the good ole days Alec.

killian 03-12-2006 02:39 PM

I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

MovinH2 03-12-2006 03:23 PM

Well if it does come out I'll buy one for sure.

4Skin 03-12-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by killian:
I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

Now you can go back and bitch slap the pole smoker.

HUMTECH 03-13-2006 01:34 AM

I have heard rumours of A diesel powered H-2, but likely would not be the D-MAX currently used in the trucks, but A new engine in development. Also the truck line will be dropping the 6.0l in exchange for A new 6.2l gas engine(if memory serves me) not sure if the H-2 will see the new engine or continue with the 6.0l. Time will tell.

CLAYDOG 03-13-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by killian:
I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

Never is a strong word to use in the car biz. But if he's talking about the D-max in it's current form he is correct.

DRTYFN 03-13-2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by killian:
I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

Never is a strong word to use in the car biz. But if he's talking about the D-max in it's current form he is correct. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It probably would be the upcoming 6.6L 360hp 650lb/ft Duramax.

Humtech, would that 6.2L gasser be the same as the new Escalade engine?

InfantryWS6 03-13-2006 02:36 PM

Maybe it will be this engine

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060312/autos...rope.html?.v=1


GLOBAL DIESEL OFFENSIVE.

Separately, the trade publication also reported that GM is planning a global diesel offensive starting in 2008 that would include launching new diesel engines in the United States, where the technology has found few fans compared to Europe.

"We are developing right now two highly modern diesel motors that won't just fulfil the Euro-5 emission standards, but (also) the more stringent Bin-5 regulations in the USA," an unidentified GM manager told Automobilwoche.

It plans to introduce a 2.9 liter V6 and a 4.5 liter V8 that will gradually be used in almost all sport utility vehicles, pick-ups and large sedans in all GM brands and all markets.

RacerX 04-12-2006 02:10 AM

I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

Boss Hoss 04-12-2006 02:39 AM

Sounds like a pretty cool option but my truck does the job just fine like it is. I dont see a need for the dmax unless you tow alot. If it saves gas(diesel) it would take quite some time to cover the saving in gas over the price of the option.....if memory serves me correctly the dmax is around a 6k option on the 2500 hd's between the engine and the allison tranny. Dont get me wrong it would be cool...perhaps i dont like the fact that my truck would automaticly become less cool.

usetosellhummer 04-12-2006 02:36 PM

Putting the D in is not cost effective for Gm so with would have to be the new platform. Am General builds the H2 and that contract has a few more years on it. don't look for any changes in 07

PARAGON 04-12-2006 02:49 PM

this has been discussed many times on here before, no major changes until 2008 model comes out in 2007 and then it won't be on the GMT900

NoMoGMPG 04-12-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform.

DRTYFN 04-12-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoMoGMPG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They better hurry the F up.

MarineHawk 04-12-2006 05:08 PM

What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

CLAYDOG 04-12-2006 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

A “platform” is a component set that works together. Many people mistakenly think “frame” when using the word platform and they couldn’t be more wrong. As an example a 3500 pick-up and the old 1500 Tahoe don’t share any frame and suspension parts, but are both based on the GMT800 platform. In most cases any more, the electronic system of a given car/truck platform is the single biggest driver of shared components. Look at the electrically controlled components that were changed/improved from the 800 based Tahoe to the 900 based Tahoe and you can pretty well guess what’s going to change when the H2 goes to the 900 platform.

CLAYDOG 04-12-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoMoGMPG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


MarineHawk 04-12-2006 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

A “platform” is a component set that works together. Many people mistakenly think “frame” when using the word platform and they couldn’t be more wrong. As an example a 3500 pick-up and the old 1500 Tahoe don’t share any frame and suspension parts, but are both based on the GMT800 platform. In most cases any more, the electronic system of a given car/truck platform is the single biggest driver of shared components. Look at the electrically controlled components that were changed/improved from the 800 based Tahoe to the 900 based Tahoe and you can pretty well guess what’s going to change when the H2 goes to the 900 platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I am completely ignorant of the 900-based Tahoe, is it: Stronger? Lighter? More squirrelly? Bouncier? Prettier?

NoMoGMPG 04-12-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

A “platform” is a component set that works together. Many people mistakenly think “frame” when using the word platform and they couldn’t be more wrong. As an example a 3500 pick-up and the old 1500 Tahoe don’t share any frame and suspension parts, but are both based on the GMT800 platform. In most cases any more, the electronic system of a given car/truck platform is the single biggest driver of shared components. Look at the electrically controlled components that were changed/improved from the 800 based Tahoe to the 900 based Tahoe and you can pretty well guess what’s going to change when the H2 goes to the 900 platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I am completely ignorant of the 900-based Tahoe, is it: Stronger? Lighter? More squirrelly? Bouncier? Prettier? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From a Tahoe/Yukon standpoint, it looks to me like they (GM) have incorporated more Escalade styling, better lighting, and some economy/performance enhancements.

PARAGON 04-12-2006 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoMoGMPG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I think he was referring to the H2 not being on the GMT900 until later, not that the platform isn't already out in another configuration.

The new Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade has been discussed in pretty good detail here, so you can do a search and find all kinds of information on it.

I had one for a day a while back and posted junk about it here: http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1726043161/m/4...861021261#4861021261

johndjmix1 04-16-2006 02:59 PM

I was told 2009.

Keep in mind if you go for the diesel it will proboly add $5,000 - $7,000 to the price. I made up a spreadsheet to see if it is worth it for the milage, and on average it will take you 6-7 YEARS to make up the extra cost in milage savings. Even if you run off-road fuel it will still take you 4 years to make up the cost.

Yea, I would definatly go for it...but for the power not the milage. Man a twin turbo duramax (like the one they put in that suburban on TRUX) would ROCK.

Going up to estas park in a few hours with a friend that just got a new jeep (STOCK!)....this should be fun.

--John

wes1977 04-26-2006 01:11 PM

Could be asking for trouble. All that power will surely break something.

usetosellhummer 04-26-2006 03:47 PM

At one time they told me at Hummer School that it just does not fit so it would have to be an Isuzu motor

Boss Hoss 04-26-2006 03:56 PM

Albie....i was curious to see how your rig did at Moab but i didnt see you in any pictures. I can only imagine this means you didnt make it but if you did and didnt happen to be in any pics how did you make out with the 40s?

aggiehummer...er 04-26-2006 04:43 PM

As it sits right now, the Dmax would put too much weight on the front suspension, which is already almost maxed out on a stock truck.

In 2007, they're taking away the uplevel chrome package and making those items (chrome hood latches, chrome hood handles, chrome fuel door) part of the normal chrome appearance package. They're also changing the tire brand from BF Goodrich to Goodyear, same size. That's it.

PARAGON 04-26-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aggiehummer...er:
As it sits right now, the Dmax would put too much weight on the front suspension, which is already almost maxed out on a stock truck.
Well, that most assuredly is not it. The front end uses the same components from a 2500 HD pickup that runs the Dmax. Now, considering, the tranny also, the actual sheet metal and longer wheelbase, it would stand to reason that weight is not the reason. Size is the culprit right now. While it can be stuffed in there by an aftermarket company, it's just not sufficient enough for GM to give the go ahead and deal with the warranty headaches that would be associated with it.

2008 model coming out next year, will have 400hp 400lb/ft of torque (approx) and probably an updated interior. Also, stands to reason that the 2009 model won't be on the GMT900 platform if that happens. Maybe in 2009 the 2010 model will be re-done and based on the GMT900.

f5fstop 04-26-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InfantryWS6:
Maybe it will be this engine

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060312/autos...rope.html?.v=1


GLOBAL DIESEL OFFENSIVE.

Separately, the trade publication also reported that GM is planning a global diesel offensive starting in 2008 that would include launching new diesel engines in the United States, where the technology has found few fans compared to Europe.

"We are developing right now two highly modern diesel motors that won't just fulfil the Euro-5 emission standards, but (also) the more stringent Bin-5 regulations in the USA," an unidentified GM manager told Automobilwoche.

It plans to introduce a 2.9 liter V6 and a 4.5 liter V8 that will gradually be used in almost all sport utility vehicles, pick-ups and large sedans in all GM brands and all markets.

The global H3 is coming. What it will have is...well, I can't say at this time.


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