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ItsaJeepThing95 07-30-2003 06:43 PM

I'm just curious what kind of flex the H2's have. I know the IFS is kinda hurt things a bit in that area, but I've seen some amazing IFS flex before. Here's what I can do:



BTW, I have a whopping $30 into my whole suspension setup.

Let's see what you guys can do!

ItsaJeepThing95 07-30-2003 06:43 PM

I'm just curious what kind of flex the H2's have. I know the IFS is kinda hurt things a bit in that area, but I've seen some amazing IFS flex before. Here's what I can do:



BTW, I have a whopping $30 into my whole suspension setup.

Let's see what you guys can do!

ItsaJeepThing95 07-30-2003 07:24 PM

Some nice droop there! Was that somewhere around the Rampart/Dakan area? Looks like that big rock on Dakan Rd.

SJ 07-30-2003 07:28 PM

The H2 won't offer that much travel up front. It's a trade-off with IFS that I gladly accept. I had a Grand and Chevy Blazer and the ride was fairly harsh on rough roads, where the H2 soaks-up the bumps with ease.

99% of my driving time is on paved roads, so I prefer IFS. If I had a trail-only rig, then I'd probably opt for a Jeep TJ or another Grand. Some of the new rock crawlers are IFS and IRS setups, so people are getting creative with the technology.

I find that I can pick different lines than I might with a solid axle setup and still go most of the places and more than I could with my other trucks.

ItsaJeepThing95 07-30-2003 07:32 PM

There are quite a few times where I would prefer IFS. Mainly on-road or hi-speed off-road. And you don't get Death Wobble with IFS!

Adam in CO 07-30-2003 08:18 PM

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I really don't have "flex" pics

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Fellow Off-Roader 07-31-2003 11:42 AM

personally I'd rather have lockers or some type of traction control than a flexy suspension. in off-camber situations with a full roof rack, stiffer and solid is more reassuring. plus you have a better chance getting over, through, whatever when locked frt and rear.

Detonate 07-31-2003 11:53 AM

This is the only one I could find in my photos.



-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
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DiscoDancingRover 07-31-2003 01:30 PM

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This is the best picture I have . It is about a 12 inches down from its normal spot, its kidna had to tell. I don't take pictures of me flexing, too busy driving.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

Albie 08-01-2003 01:46 PM

I have a little three wheele motion

Fellow Off-Roader 08-01-2003 06:56 PM

Albie's pic really shows why diff traction controls are more effective that a flexy suspension for real time traction vs RTI scores.

ItsaJeepThing95 08-01-2003 07:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fellow Off-Roader:
Albie's pic really shows why diff traction controls are more effective that a flexy suspension for real time traction vs RTI scores.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do the H2's have some sort of LSD or locker in the front?

For me its been kinda pointless/not practical to get any lockers or LSD. Up until about 3-4 months ago I had a full time t-case, so if I had put a lock-rite or anything up there besides a selectable, onroad driving would be a major PITA. In the rear, the axle I currently have isn't worth it. It's a weak POS and I'm going to eventually replace, probably replace the front too for added strength. Until then I have to rely on the skinny pedal and articulation since it was a lot cheaper for me to make a flexy suspension than buy lockers.

Fellow Off-Roader 08-01-2003 07:32 PM

Its actually a pretty cool system:

"TCS/TC2
The Single Wheel traction control system gives you traction when you need it most. The system detects a slipping wheel and applies brake pressure to slow it down, it then takes the energy that would have otherwise gone to the slipping wheel and transfers it to a wheel that's not slipping. With this system, you could have as many as three wheels on a slippery surface (virtually no traction) and still get enough torque out of the fourth wheel to move the truck up a 10% grade.

The H2's base TCS mode is great for normal hard surface traction needs, like on-road use, off-road rock crawling or ice and snow. But once you hit a variable surface like deep mud, sand or gravel the TC2 takes over. The TC2 works just like TCS but allows limited wheel spin to help gain even more traction.

So with three transfer case selections, two rear axle differential selections and two modes provided by the TCS mode switch, you actually have a total of seven driving mode selections in the H2, providing you with the ability to match the performance of the H2 with almost any driving condition."

SuperPoser 09-09-2003 01:34 AM

ItsaJeepThing95,

check out my pics for some nice flex (marshalls sas taco, and mark's sas '86 yota)

ifs sucks!, I've driven both...

when you are in rocks and doing hardcore wheeling, a solid font axle will help...

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WHITE BEAST 11-04-2003 12:16 AM

NICE FLEXES EVERYONE!

2003 White Lux, Alpine Nav/DVD, 3 Screens, Cold Air, Metal Dash/Mats/Steering Wheel, All SMA Chromes, Signal Mirror, Corsa Exhaust, JBA Headers, Diablo Programmer, Nology Plugs & Wires.

cyberaxe 11-07-2003 02:36 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Chris:
This is the best picture I have . It is about a 12 inches down from its normal spot, its kidna had to tell. I don't take pictures of me flexing, too busy driving.QUOTE]

I haven't had the chance to take my H2 off road much yet,But my son has PLENTY of pictures of him flexxing his 97 Disco.....

instructor 11-13-2003 11:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
[quote]Originally posted by Fellow Off-Roader:
Its actually a pretty cool system:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Yes, it is. But I just wish you could turn it off completely." from PhilD



If you ride the brake enough for the brake light to come on, it will shut off the TCS

jeep 11-17-2003 09:36 PM

why don't you just get a jeep? they are better off-road and a lot cheaper?
why did u choose H2 of a Jeep? did u look a jeep before ur purchase?
just wondering?

only in a jeep

Centerfire 11-19-2003 06:28 PM

Ouch.. doesn't that Hurt!

Mike

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
You can't really from this pic, but the rear was articulating real well here. If you look under the vehicle, you can see the axle at an angle and the rear spring;

http://www.h2southtexas.com/events/0...ages/ric01.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rocket_Jockey 04-27-2004 01:10 PM

come on guys, where's an H2 with a strait axle? that's what y'all need to flex. i think the combo of luxury and ability theory might be off a bit, i built my jeep for 3300 dollars and i can guarantee (not bragging or flaming) that it will outwheel an H2, if only because of its size. it also has every creature comfort you can get, sans bling bling TV screens and GPS (i know how to use a map!) funny how i could build like 20 of these things for what you guys pay, but you all must have more money than me, like yellow H2, who has a pic of his H2 next to his porsche. i just dont see the point in them, as they are a jack of all trades and they suck at most. so what about some pics of a strait axle H2 on the ramp?

Detonate 04-27-2004 04:12 PM

Yeah, but your Jeep looks like ass. Not to mention how much they suck to drive on the road.

Sorry, but I put probably 3,000 road miles to every 1 off road mile. I take that into consideration.

Jeeps absolutely suck to ride in.

ShaggyX 04-27-2004 04:21 PM

Rocket_Jockey...so you can flex better than an H2...who cares? I want to see you try to keep up with an H2 that is flying down a dirt road Baja Style. I have tried in my Zr2...its not gonna happen in your pos XJ. Dont get me wrong, I hate the H2 , but you are a moron if you think Flex is all that matters when it comes to wheeling.

Klaus 04-27-2004 04:26 PM

The Jeep 4.0L inline 6 cylinder engine sucks as well. Step down on the gas, and it just makes more noise.

But - If you don't mind being passed by Buicks driven by old men wearing hats, then it's the perfect choice for you.

Dan 04-27-2004 04:56 PM

Wow, you registered just to post that load??

I can tell by the shadow you're built like Urkel. Or a rubber chicken.

Hummer Man 04-27-2004 05:28 PM

Very Kool People!

Detonate 04-27-2004 05:38 PM

Wow Nate, is this you and your Star Wars buddies having a light sabre fight?
http://timber.arxys.net/albums/Jeep-...flexxx_072.mpg

PS, is there any reason your Jack appears to be Hot Pink?


Detonate 04-27-2004 05:39 PM

Here is a better pictures of "Nate Fry"


Klaus 04-27-2004 05:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hummer Man:
Very Kool People! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hummer Man,

If you see a couple of guys wearing white coats and carrying a net, don't be afraid. They really are there to help you!

PARAGON 04-27-2004 05:57 PM

How about this picture of Nate?


PARAGON 04-27-2004 06:01 PM

Nate,

If you gonna come in here trying to brag about your POS, how about providing a link of you off-road. Everyone of your pictures are in a parking lot. Mr Fry, you, sir, are a loser.

Hummer Man 04-27-2004 06:02 PM

Hey thanks. In the R & D department my people where white coats all day long. The dust free enviroment in our Information Systems Room also requires our folks to wear white coats!

PARAGON 04-27-2004 06:09 PM

Here are some better pictures of Nate:








Hummer Man 04-27-2004 06:12 PM

That is sic!

PARAGON 04-27-2004 06:21 PM

Jim,

Does this answer your question as to why his jack is Hot Pink?


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