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Norm London Ontario Hummer Owners Group After you find your Hummer, the work begins on how to import it and the steps you have to go through to make it the least frustrating. From a purely personal observation, my experience is that government is NOT your friend - take every precaution to ensure they cannot put sticks in your wheels! The first thing to understand is that a military Humvee CANNOT, under any circumstances, be imported into and registered in Canada. Any civilian Hummer (except those that have a salvage/non-rebuildable title) can be brought in and registered sucessefully. To satisfy yourself, go to the Registrar of Imported Vehicles website at http://www.riv.ca and check the list of allowable imported vehicles. Have your vehicle checked by an independant mechanic prior to buying - if you have not seen the vehicle spend the few bucks necessary to give yourself some peace of mind. Be aware that even this may not find all of the problems - in my case the vehicle was advertised as having a "new engine" - but it turned out only the short block had been replaced. After I got it home I found one of the old heads was cracked. Allow for stuff like this in your initial purchase price - leave some wiggle room for repairs. Also make sure that all liens have been released - an outstanding one can stop you from exporting the vehicle until it is satisfied. O.K., after you have done all the negotiating and have parted with your cash, you now own a Hummer in the U.S. and you need to get it into Canada and subsequently have it registered. With Free Trade that should be easy right????? ONLY IF YOU FOLLOW ALL OF THE STEPS IN ORDER AND MISS NOTHING OUT. Step one: U.S. customs requires a CERTIFIED copy of the title and bill of sale 3 working days prior to the vehicle coming across the border. The papers have to be at the border crossing you will be using - you can't drop them off at say, Cornwall and then come over at 1000 Islands. Saturdays and Sundays do not count, so if the papers get there on Friday, you won't be able to bring the vehicle over until the following Wednesday. If at all possible, take the papers personally to the border crossing you will be using and make a connection with one of the border people. While you are there, go to the Canadian side and explain to them what you are doing - it just eases the way. If you can't get there in person, send the paperwork by registered mail and follow up with a phone call to make sure it got there. Get the name of the customs agent you speak to and don't be shy to use it every time you deal with them. The same goes for the Canadian side. Step two: Go and get your truck and have fun driving it back to Canada. (you can have a shipper bring it in but it could take a few weeks. As I didn't use a shipper I won't get into that area). Make sure that the bill of sale and the title have all the necessary signatures on them. As an example, if the title has two names on it, make sure the bill of sale has the same two names. Present the truck and yourself at the U.S. customs post (some posts have specific hours for bringing vehicles across, check prior to getting there). They will check the paperwork against their records, verify that it is the correct vehicle (VIN check), stamp your paperwork (the ORIGINAL title and bill of sale). They may also search the vehicle, although they did not in my case. Step three: After clearing U.S. customs, head through to the Canadian side. You will be asked to park the truck and go into the office to complete the paperwork. They are looking for the stamped original title from U.S. customs and the bill of sale. You will complete a couple of forms at Canadian customs, the Registrar of Imported Vehicles Form 1 and the G.S.T. declaration. G.S.T. is charged at the border on the Canadian equivalent of the purchase price as shown on the bill of sale, there will also be the R.I.V. charge ($175 in Ontario) and the air tax of $100. Some customs posts will charge an overweight vehicle fee, mine at Cornwall did not. Fees can be paid by VISA or Mastercard. Step four: R.I.V. is supposed to send you a Form 2 within 10 days of the vehicle crossing into Canada. In my case this did not happen and after I checked 3 weeks later the nice R.I.V. folks told me that the Form 1 that was faxed to them by Canadian customs was illegible, so they just put it to one side. Moral of this story is - if you don't have the Form 2 10 days after you bring the truck in, call R.I.V. and find out what the problem is, as you cannot register the truck without a completed Form 2. If you bug them enough they will fax the from to you. Step five: Probably the least you will need is daytime running lights installed on your truck. You also need to have all open recalls done, as well as any of those other pesky repairs I mentioned above. While it is more expensive, you will be much further ahead if you can get an authorised Hummer dealer to do the work. They can print out a certification on AMG Hummer letterhead stating that the work has been done and that there are no open recalls left on your particular truck. If you do not use a Hummer dealer, you will have to get the letter from a dealer or from AMG yourself. Step six: Now you head off to an authorised R.I.V. inspection station (It is Canadian Tire here in Ontario) to have the Form 2 completed (this costs nothing as the cost is built into the original R.I.V. fee you paid at the border). Take all of the paperwork with you, it's better to have it there when they ask for it! Step seven: After getting the Form 2 stamped by the inspection station, take ALL of your paperwork to the licence bureau. The things they are looking for specifically are: a) Original title b) Bill of sale c) G.S.T. form that you were given at Canadian customs d) Completed R.I.V. Form 2. If all of these are in order, they will then extract the Provincial sales tax from you based on the bill of sale purchase price, the plate fee and the road tax. They will then give you your new plates and ownership. YOU ARE DONE! Step eight : ENJOY - you deserve it. One further thing - if you import a 4 door pick-up or an open top, in Ontario you will be required to have an annual heavy diesel safety check. This does not apply to the wagon - go figure! It took me four weeks to get through the process. It could have been done in two if I had been more on the ball, your experience may vary! John Ferguson, Happy HMC4 owner. EmailJocelyn@cyberus.ca |
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Norm London Ontario Hummer Owners Group After you find your Hummer, the work begins on how to import it and the steps you have to go through to make it the least frustrating. From a purely personal observation, my experience is that government is NOT your friend - take every precaution to ensure they cannot put sticks in your wheels! The first thing to understand is that a military Humvee CANNOT, under any circumstances, be imported into and registered in Canada. Any civilian Hummer (except those that have a salvage/non-rebuildable title) can be brought in and registered sucessefully. To satisfy yourself, go to the Registrar of Imported Vehicles website at http://www.riv.ca and check the list of allowable imported vehicles. Have your vehicle checked by an independant mechanic prior to buying - if you have not seen the vehicle spend the few bucks necessary to give yourself some peace of mind. Be aware that even this may not find all of the problems - in my case the vehicle was advertised as having a "new engine" - but it turned out only the short block had been replaced. After I got it home I found one of the old heads was cracked. Allow for stuff like this in your initial purchase price - leave some wiggle room for repairs. Also make sure that all liens have been released - an outstanding one can stop you from exporting the vehicle until it is satisfied. O.K., after you have done all the negotiating and have parted with your cash, you now own a Hummer in the U.S. and you need to get it into Canada and subsequently have it registered. With Free Trade that should be easy right????? ONLY IF YOU FOLLOW ALL OF THE STEPS IN ORDER AND MISS NOTHING OUT. Step one: U.S. customs requires a CERTIFIED copy of the title and bill of sale 3 working days prior to the vehicle coming across the border. The papers have to be at the border crossing you will be using - you can't drop them off at say, Cornwall and then come over at 1000 Islands. Saturdays and Sundays do not count, so if the papers get there on Friday, you won't be able to bring the vehicle over until the following Wednesday. If at all possible, take the papers personally to the border crossing you will be using and make a connection with one of the border people. While you are there, go to the Canadian side and explain to them what you are doing - it just eases the way. If you can't get there in person, send the paperwork by registered mail and follow up with a phone call to make sure it got there. Get the name of the customs agent you speak to and don't be shy to use it every time you deal with them. The same goes for the Canadian side. Step two: Go and get your truck and have fun driving it back to Canada. (you can have a shipper bring it in but it could take a few weeks. As I didn't use a shipper I won't get into that area). Make sure that the bill of sale and the title have all the necessary signatures on them. As an example, if the title has two names on it, make sure the bill of sale has the same two names. Present the truck and yourself at the U.S. customs post (some posts have specific hours for bringing vehicles across, check prior to getting there). They will check the paperwork against their records, verify that it is the correct vehicle (VIN check), stamp your paperwork (the ORIGINAL title and bill of sale). They may also search the vehicle, although they did not in my case. Step three: After clearing U.S. customs, head through to the Canadian side. You will be asked to park the truck and go into the office to complete the paperwork. They are looking for the stamped original title from U.S. customs and the bill of sale. You will complete a couple of forms at Canadian customs, the Registrar of Imported Vehicles Form 1 and the G.S.T. declaration. G.S.T. is charged at the border on the Canadian equivalent of the purchase price as shown on the bill of sale, there will also be the R.I.V. charge ($175 in Ontario) and the air tax of $100. Some customs posts will charge an overweight vehicle fee, mine at Cornwall did not. Fees can be paid by VISA or Mastercard. Step four: R.I.V. is supposed to send you a Form 2 within 10 days of the vehicle crossing into Canada. In my case this did not happen and after I checked 3 weeks later the nice R.I.V. folks told me that the Form 1 that was faxed to them by Canadian customs was illegible, so they just put it to one side. Moral of this story is - if you don't have the Form 2 10 days after you bring the truck in, call R.I.V. and find out what the problem is, as you cannot register the truck without a completed Form 2. If you bug them enough they will fax the from to you. Step five: Probably the least you will need is daytime running lights installed on your truck. You also need to have all open recalls done, as well as any of those other pesky repairs I mentioned above. While it is more expensive, you will be much further ahead if you can get an authorised Hummer dealer to do the work. They can print out a certification on AMG Hummer letterhead stating that the work has been done and that there are no open recalls left on your particular truck. If you do not use a Hummer dealer, you will have to get the letter from a dealer or from AMG yourself. Step six: Now you head off to an authorised R.I.V. inspection station (It is Canadian Tire here in Ontario) to have the Form 2 completed (this costs nothing as the cost is built into the original R.I.V. fee you paid at the border). Take all of the paperwork with you, it's better to have it there when they ask for it! Step seven: After getting the Form 2 stamped by the inspection station, take ALL of your paperwork to the licence bureau. The things they are looking for specifically are: a) Original title b) Bill of sale c) G.S.T. form that you were given at Canadian customs d) Completed R.I.V. Form 2. If all of these are in order, they will then extract the Provincial sales tax from you based on the bill of sale purchase price, the plate fee and the road tax. They will then give you your new plates and ownership. YOU ARE DONE! Step eight : ENJOY - you deserve it. One further thing - if you import a 4 door pick-up or an open top, in Ontario you will be required to have an annual heavy diesel safety check. This does not apply to the wagon - go figure! It took me four weeks to get through the process. It could have been done in two if I had been more on the ball, your experience may vary! John Ferguson, Happy HMC4 owner. EmailJocelyn@cyberus.ca |
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Norm London Ontario Hummer Owners Group After you find your Hummer, the work begins on how to import it and the steps you have to go through to make it the least frustrating. From a purely personal observation, my experience is that government is NOT your friend - take every precaution to ensure they cannot put sticks in your wheels! The first thing to understand is that a military Humvee CANNOT, under any circumstances, be imported into and registered in Canada. Any civilian Hummer (except those that have a salvage/non-rebuildable title) can be brought in and registered sucessefully. To satisfy yourself, go to the Registrar of Imported Vehicles website at http://www.riv.ca and check the list of allowable imported vehicles. Have your vehicle checked by an independant mechanic prior to buying - if you have not seen the vehicle spend the few bucks necessary to give yourself some peace of mind. Be aware that even this may not find all of the problems - in my case the vehicle was advertised as having a "new engine" - but it turned out only the short block had been replaced. After I got it home I found one of the old heads was cracked. Allow for stuff like this in your initial purchase price - leave some wiggle room for repairs. Also make sure that all liens have been released - an outstanding one can stop you from exporting the vehicle until it is satisfied. O.K., after you have done all the negotiating and have parted with your cash, you now own a Hummer in the U.S. and you need to get it into Canada and subsequently have it registered. With Free Trade that should be easy right????? ONLY IF YOU FOLLOW ALL OF THE STEPS IN ORDER AND MISS NOTHING OUT. Step one: U.S. customs requires a CERTIFIED copy of the title and bill of sale 3 working days prior to the vehicle coming across the border. The papers have to be at the border crossing you will be using - you can't drop them off at say, Cornwall and then come over at 1000 Islands. Saturdays and Sundays do not count, so if the papers get there on Friday, you won't be able to bring the vehicle over until the following Wednesday. If at all possible, take the papers personally to the border crossing you will be using and make a connection with one of the border people. While you are there, go to the Canadian side and explain to them what you are doing - it just eases the way. If you can't get there in person, send the paperwork by registered mail and follow up with a phone call to make sure it got there. Get the name of the customs agent you speak to and don't be shy to use it every time you deal with them. The same goes for the Canadian side. Step two: Go and get your truck and have fun driving it back to Canada. (you can have a shipper bring it in but it could take a few weeks. As I didn't use a shipper I won't get into that area). Make sure that the bill of sale and the title have all the necessary signatures on them. As an example, if the title has two names on it, make sure the bill of sale has the same two names. Present the truck and yourself at the U.S. customs post (some posts have specific hours for bringing vehicles across, check prior to getting there). They will check the paperwork against their records, verify that it is the correct vehicle (VIN check), stamp your paperwork (the ORIGINAL title and bill of sale). They may also search the vehicle, although they did not in my case. Step three: After clearing U.S. customs, head through to the Canadian side. You will be asked to park the truck and go into the office to complete the paperwork. They are looking for the stamped original title from U.S. customs and the bill of sale. You will complete a couple of forms at Canadian customs, the Registrar of Imported Vehicles Form 1 and the G.S.T. declaration. G.S.T. is charged at the border on the Canadian equivalent of the purchase price as shown on the bill of sale, there will also be the R.I.V. charge ($175 in Ontario) and the air tax of $100. Some customs posts will charge an overweight vehicle fee, mine at Cornwall did not. Fees can be paid by VISA or Mastercard. Step four: R.I.V. is supposed to send you a Form 2 within 10 days of the vehicle crossing into Canada. In my case this did not happen and after I checked 3 weeks later the nice R.I.V. folks told me that the Form 1 that was faxed to them by Canadian customs was illegible, so they just put it to one side. Moral of this story is - if you don't have the Form 2 10 days after you bring the truck in, call R.I.V. and find out what the problem is, as you cannot register the truck without a completed Form 2. If you bug them enough they will fax the from to you. Step five: Probably the least you will need is daytime running lights installed on your truck. You also need to have all open recalls done, as well as any of those other pesky repairs I mentioned above. While it is more expensive, you will be much further ahead if you can get an authorised Hummer dealer to do the work. They can print out a certification on AMG Hummer letterhead stating that the work has been done and that there are no open recalls left on your particular truck. If you do not use a Hummer dealer, you will have to get the letter from a dealer or from AMG yourself. Step six: Now you head off to an authorised R.I.V. inspection station (It is Canadian Tire here in Ontario) to have the Form 2 completed (this costs nothing as the cost is built into the original R.I.V. fee you paid at the border). Take all of the paperwork with you, it's better to have it there when they ask for it! Step seven: After getting the Form 2 stamped by the inspection station, take ALL of your paperwork to the licence bureau. The things they are looking for specifically are: a) Original title b) Bill of sale c) G.S.T. form that you were given at Canadian customs d) Completed R.I.V. Form 2. If all of these are in order, they will then extract the Provincial sales tax from you based on the bill of sale purchase price, the plate fee and the road tax. They will then give you your new plates and ownership. YOU ARE DONE! Step eight : ENJOY - you deserve it. One further thing - if you import a 4 door pick-up or an open top, in Ontario you will be required to have an annual heavy diesel safety check. This does not apply to the wagon - go figure! It took me four weeks to get through the process. It could have been done in two if I had been more on the ball, your experience may vary! John Ferguson, Happy HMC4 owner. EmailJocelyn@cyberus.ca |
Great info. Dueck stopped selling H1's here. This will come in handy. Thanks.
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Great info, as I am looking to purchase my 2nd H1 from down in the states and have been trying to figure out all the necessary steps, but one questions, after you complete the sale but have not yet crossed the border and registered it how can you drive it with no registration and insurance???
is there some kind of temporary permit or something you can get??? paul |
Bump.
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the comment above about not being able to import and register HMMWVs in canada is wrong unless the laws just changed.
i can't comment on ONT. legislation but i had no problem importing and lisencing my '85 M998 here in Saskatchewan. it will be going up for sale right away. New engine along with many, many other new parts. b |
This sounds right as we did get stung with the overweight tax at the border in Alberta.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hmrbri:
the comment above about not being able to import and register HMMWVs in canada is wrong unless the laws just changed. i can't comment on ONT. legislation but i had no problem importing and lisencing my '85 M998 here in Saskatchewan. it will be going up for sale right away. New engine along with many, many other new parts. b </div></BLOCKQUOTE> What's your asking price Brian? |
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