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Slappy White 09-19-2007 05:00 AM
Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
A friend of mine says a group of people from Hummer X destroyed an alpine meadow in Colorado and then tried to cover it up. Anyone have any details?

Eric Lynch 09-19-2007 05:04 AM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
I heard that a guy named Bondage and his whore Toots/Ginger got lost and lead a group of people off the trail and across several miles of sage brush and other delicate terrain. Now he is chewng ass on the poeple that organized the cleanup. Wow what a group of ass holes on that site.

DennisAJC 09-19-2007 05:37 AM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
I've been hearing about this from the other forums also.

Was it ******* members? I heard they did some really stupid stunts by going off trail and destroying the vegetation and it was intentional.

I didn't know ******* condoned or supported stuff like that. The true colors are starting to show.:(

I'm betting it was probably Humbebe that organized the repair since she's such a goody goody.:clapping:


Anyone hear or know more about this?

Somebody is gonna get sued or even lose their home over this.

Noskin 09-19-2007 06:10 AM
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I belong to both elcova and *******.

I've lurked here on elcova almost a year and a half but never posted because of the "strong" personalities and unwarranted but funny attacks on other members. But I'd much rather be assosiated here with hardcases than being associated with guys at *******.

I've been to a few of the HX gatherings(My name over there I'll keep anonymous) and most of them don't seem to respect trail ettiquette. they go where they want and without leadership. I've witnessed one throwing his beer can out of his window on the trail.

I think this last incident with the Colorado trail destruction really was the last straw for me. The personalities on HX are retards in line and retards in person. It's only a matter of time before their wreckless behaviour catches up with them.

And yes I'm sure I heard it was humbabe (A member here and I think a director with blue ribbon coalition) that promptly organized a trail repair. They attacked her on HX for sticking her nose in their business and I think she got banned from there. She did a good thing but obviously the HX folks don't support good deeds.

Noskin 09-19-2007 06:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Lynch
I heard that a guy named Bondage and his whore Toots/Ginger got lost and lead a group of people off the trail and across several miles of sage brush and other delicate terrain. Now he is chewng ass on the poeple that organized the cleanup. Wow what a group of ass holes on that site.

Ginger is actually a pretty nice woman. It's her husband that's a real odd ball. He acts like he knows everthing but is clearly stupid. His ego got him lost and instead of admitting it, started this vegetation destruction mele. This isn't the only time. Out of the 3 outings I've seen him at he always does something stupid and wreckless. I can't believe he owns guns.

Noskin 09-19-2007 06:36 AM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slappy White
A friend of mine says a group of people from Hummer X destroyed an alpine meadow in Colorado and then tried to cover it up. Anyone have any details?

I think I have pictures. I also have pictures from the Sedona Arizona run where one of the H2 owners shoved all his plastic and glass garbage under a rock when we broke for lunch near Chicken Point. some of the guys just laughed at what he did but did nothing. Rod, Jose and those guys were there and nothing was said or done about it.

DRTYFN 09-19-2007 06:44 AM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slappy White
A friend of mine says a group of people from Hummer X destroyed an alpine meadow in Colorado and then tried to cover it up. Anyone have any details?

Unbelievable!!! But I guess with all of the squabbling about who's in charge of the little fiefdoms there's really no one concerned with proper trail etiquette or true leadership. :OWNED:by politics. :OWNED:by sluts that get their husbands drunk & passed out so they can f*ck someone else and then lie about it to the fatty. :OWNED:by sneaky underhanded recruiting tactics.

I would like to thank most of the Misfit Toys for allowing me to live rent free in their heads over there even though I don't go there. Thanks for chastising people because they associate with me. Really shows those true colors, you dopes.:beerchug: :jump:

DennisAJC 09-19-2007 06:45 AM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
:popcorn:


I fear this won't end well.:D


Pics Noskin. Pics. Do now.

DennisAJC 09-19-2007 06:49 AM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Unbelievable!!! But I guess with all of the squabbling about who's in charge of the little fiefdoms there's really no one concerned with proper trail etiquette or true leadership. :OWNED:by politics. :OWNED:by sluts that get their husbands drunk & passed out so they can f*ck someone else and then lie about it to the fatty. :OWNED:by sneaky underhanded recruiting tactics.

I would like to thank most of the Misfit Toys for allowing me to live rent free in their heads over there even though I don't go there.:beerchug: :jump:



And now I hear some are trying to cross back to Elcova like a bunch of illegal messicans.:jump:

Noskin 09-19-2007 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Unbelievable!!! But I guess with all of the squabbling about who's in charge of the little fiefdoms there's really no one concerned with proper trail etiquette or true leadership. :OWNED:by politics. :OWNED:by sluts that get their husbands drunk & passed out so they can f*ck someone else and then lie about it to the fatty. :OWNED:by sneaky underhanded recruiting tactics.

I would like to thank most of the Misfit Toys for allowing me to live rent free in their heads over there even though I don't go there. Thanks for chastising people because they associate with me. Really shows those true colors, you dopes.:beerchug: :jump:

And you have to pay an annual fee at HX. It's free here but it takes a thick skin. But the people here are real. HX is full of freaks.

DennisAJC 09-19-2007 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Noskin
And you have to pay an annual fee at HX. It's free here but it takes a thick skin. But the people here are real. HX is full of freaks.

You're still an HX turd so don't think we're gonna welcome you with open arms that easily.

Post them pics or say bye-bye. I want to see some proof to these horror stories.

DRTYFN 09-19-2007 06:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DennisAJC
:popcorn:


I fear this won't end well.:D


Pics Noskin. Pics. Do now.

Yes, dew now.

KenP 09-19-2007 06:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noskin
I think I have pictures. I also have pictures from the Sedona Arizona run where one of the H2 owners shoved all his plastic and glass garbage under a rock when we broke for lunch near Chicken Point. some of the guys just laughed at what he did but did nothing. Rod, Jose and those guys were there and nothing was said or done about it.
I don't know the whole story here, but that's just crap!

And if someone was in a sensitive area and drove offtrail, that's just irresponsible and reckless.

They need to be held accountable.

This is embarassing and a setback not just for the Hummer community, but for the entire offroad community as a whole.

******* leaders need to make amends.

Slappy White 09-19-2007 07:00 AM
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I just found this. It's from that guy Bondage. This is really good since he lead a group of *******ers off the trail and across a sensitive sage brush area for MILES!!!! Who is this fawktard???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondage on HXC
I think a lot of us, who have been called everything from paranoid to delusional, want to know the full story here. I've spent the morning researching it. I love this question from Rich:

"Why choose this thread to attack her? Whether we like it or not, Bebe and Alec's concerns have come to fruition....."

Of course they have. Bebe, not getting sufficient satisfaction for her ranting here on the forum, called The Western Slope 4 Wheelers and turned in the abuse - citing Hummers in particular, and the HXC in general as being responsible for the damage. Now, in fairness, she and Alec are offering to pay for the seed, etc. as this group repairs the trail. Very generous and commendable. But to pretend to be shocked when the Hummer bashing ensues is disgusting. She is, as a friend of mine puts it, "off the deep end." Wanting to get the damage fixed and paying for it out of pocket is commendable. But that could have been done without bashing Hummers and the HXC. That, and the fact that it was kept a secret, make it painfully obvious that her motives were not so pure. Of course their concerns have come to fruition - they have made SURE of that!

I love this one, too:

Sewie - "If trying to protect the image of the club is hurting your feelings....." How, exactly was she trying to protect the image of the club? Seems just the opposite to me. When we don't bow down at the Queen's feet and obey her every whim, she turns the club in to the authorities through the local 4x club!

So, to recap, Bebe (I don't understand the full extent of Alec's involvement - perhaps he'll enlighten us) reports the club for trail abuse, then is shocked and enjoys this pious "I told you so" attitude when the shiite hits the fan - enjoying the role of saviour and putting out the fire. Reminds me of those stories you read where the fireman sets a fire - only so he can discover it and be the big hero when he puts it out. It makes me sick. If Bebe wanted to do the right thing, she could have done so without besmirching the Humer brand or the club's image. There was ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO EITHER MENTION HUMMERS AND THE HXC OR TO KEEP IT A SECRET. The lies, deceptions, and trickery are appalling.

So. to the two of you, as Alec suggests, thank you for getting the damage repaired and for paying for it out of your own pockets. The FS and the BLM are involved now, and fines may well be coming HXC's way - and for that, rather than a thank you, I offer a huge F*CK you and your crusading, pious, self-righteous, sef-important, lunatic, fanatic zealotry. F*CK you for smearing this club's name so that you can feel oh-so-important. F*CK you for pretending to be shocked when Hummers get slammed on forums - after YOU set it all up.

I'd like the full and true story to be spelled out here by Bebe and Alec. Failing that, I move that Bebe be removed from the club and that she be banned from the forum. Once again, what she did, in a general sense, was commendable! And once again, the way she did it was detrimental and counter-productive. I know this - I'll never hit a trail with her again. I need to trust the folks I'm out there with - not be looking over my shoulder to see if any small mistake I make is going to be reported to the authorities.

KenP 09-19-2007 07:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DennisAJC
You're still an HX turd so don't think we're gonna welcome you with open arms that easily.

Post them pics or say bye-bye. I want to see some proof to these horror stories.
Agreed. Post the pics so we don't over react if it's bull.

And WTF is this about people blazzing their own trails when they don't feel like following the main trail any longer? I heard that was an HXC event also.

WTF???

Birdman 09-19-2007 07:05 AM
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Well I for one am glad I read this thread because it confirmed my suspicions about the whorestress who has everyone whipped over there.

Note to self: If you ever destroy the preserved wilderness in Colorado, please post a picture of yourself on myspace in panties and a bra. All will be forgotten.



HIWHORE - We will not forget!

KenP 09-19-2007 07:08 AM
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I guess they all should pay for stupidity.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondage on HXC
I think a lot of us, who have been called everything from paranoid to delusional, want to know the full story here. I've spent the morning researching it. I love this question from Rich:

"Why choose this thread to attack her? Whether we like it or not, Bebe and Alec's concerns have come to fruition....."

Of course they have. Bebe, not getting sufficient satisfaction for her ranting here on the forum, called The Western Slope 4 Wheelers and turned in the abuse - citing Hummers in particular, and the HXC in general as being responsible for the damage. Now, in fairness, she and Alec are offering to pay for the seed, etc. as this group repairs the trail. Very generous and commendable. But to pretend to be shocked when the Hummer bashing ensues is disgusting. She is, as a friend of mine puts it, "off the deep end." Wanting to get the damage fixed and paying for it out of pocket is commendable. But that could have been done without bashing Hummers and the HXC. That, and the fact that it was kept a secret, make it painfully obvious that her motives were not so pure. Of course their concerns have come to fruition - they have made SURE of that!

I love this one, too:

Sewie - "If trying to protect the image of the club is hurting your feelings....." How, exactly was she trying to protect the image of the club? Seems just the opposite to me. When we don't bow down at the Queen's feet and obey her every whim, she turns the club in to the authorities through the local 4x club!

So, to recap, Bebe (I don't understand the full extent of Alec's involvement - perhaps he'll enlighten us) reports the club for trail abuse, then is shocked and enjoys this pious "I told you so" attitude when the shiite hits the fan - enjoying the role of saviour and putting out the fire. Reminds me of those stories you read where the fireman sets a fire - only so he can discover it and be the big hero when he puts it out. It makes me sick. If Bebe wanted to do the right thing, she could have done so without besmirching the Humer brand or the club's image. There was ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO EITHER MENTION HUMMERS AND THE HXC OR TO KEEP IT A SECRET. The lies, deceptions, and trickery are appalling.

So. to the two of you, as Alec suggests, thank you for getting the damage repaired and for paying for it out of your own pockets. The FS and the BLM are involved now, and fines may well be coming HXC's way - and for that, rather than a thank you, I offer a huge F*CK you and your crusading, pious, self-righteous, sef-important, lunatic, fanatic zealotry. F*CK you for smearing this club's name so that you can feel oh-so-important. F*CK you for pretending to be shocked when Hummers get slammed on forums - after YOU set it all up.

I'd like the full and true story to be spelled out here by Bebe and Alec. Failing that, I move that Bebe be removed from the club and that she be banned from the forum. Once again, what she did, in a general sense, was commendable! And once again, the way she did it was detrimental and counter-productive. I know this - I'll never hit a trail with her again. I need to trust the folks I'm out there with - not be looking over my shoulder to see if any small mistake I make is going to be reported to the authorities.

DRTYFN 09-19-2007 07:10 AM
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OMFG!!!! Good OLD Bondage is still at it. Must be Geritol suppositories.:jump:

The f*cking balls of this hypocrite Bondage to chastise someone for going above & beyond to arrange for the repair of damage incurred by ******* idiots(which they didn't care to take care of themselves) would be unbelievable if it were anyone else. I guess he doesn't think anyone else knows that he DID, in fact, lead a group off the legal trail and across several miles of cryptobiotic soil because he'd gotten the group lost and his enormous ego wouldn't allow him to turn around and follow the trail back like people that respect nature would.
Quote:
There was ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO EITHER MENTION HUMMERS AND THE HXC OR TO KEEP IT A SECRET. The lies, deceptions, and trickery are appalling.
Coming from Bondage this is both funny & sad. I feel bad for his step-daughters. They must really be living in a constant state of fear & embarrassment.

DRTYFN 09-19-2007 07:13 AM
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Quote:
I'll never hit a trail with her again. I need to trust the folks I'm out there with - not be looking over my shoulder to see if any small mistake I make is going to be reported to the authorities.
Only problem is that he made a MAJOR MISTAKE.
I bet the people in that group that he lead out of bounds and across miles:OWNED: of tumble weeds feel the same way about his dumbass.

Noskin 09-19-2007 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slappy White
I just found this. It's from that guy Bondage. This is really good since he lead a group of *******ers off the trail and across a sensitive sage brush area for MILES!!!! Who is this fawktard???

Bondage is the type of person who if he could get away with an illegal crime, he'll sleep well at night. If someone turns him in, that person to him is the bad guy. He's really twisted in his thought process and does not have a shred of decency. He'll meet the wrong person one day and his spandex will not save him. You guys should see his fantasy world of cowboys and robinhood costumes.

DRTYFN 09-19-2007 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Noskin
You guys should see his fantasy world of cowboys and robinhood costumes.
Oh, we've seen it. And it's soooo gay that Gooey Gaybob thinks he's a power-bottom.(That means he likes to receive forceful buttseks)

Birdman 09-19-2007 07:19 AM
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So what I'm gathering is that Hummbebe was responsible for fixing the trail that those idiots destroyed. She gets attacked by the high council over there for doing so in a way that admits the truth about who did it.

But what about HIHUMMER? Can someone post Bondage's comments about her exposing the ******* to all the ridicule? Are there any? Is she sleeping with him too?

bparker 09-19-2007 07:19 AM
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wow reading all of this makes me feel like I live in a different country. I guess we down here in the south simply have tooooo much free land to drive on without any limitations by the land owners.

Sure there are some very nice parks that do require you to adhere to trails but at the same time there are endless huge hunting ranches that will allow you to free wheel all you want without trails limits and I assume this is what spoils me vs always having to run the same trails.

now as for trashing the place with litter thats a all out sin when it comes down to simple rights and wrongs....

Birdman 09-19-2007 07:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noskin
You guys should see his fantasy world of cowboys and robinhood costumes.

I think I saw that when I posted a search for Dungeons & Dragons on Yahoo.

Slappy White 09-19-2007 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdman
So what I'm gathering is that Hummbebe was responsible for fixing the trail that those idiots destroyed. She gets attacked by the high council over there for doing so in a way that admits the truth about who did it.

But what about HIHUMMER? Can someone post Bondage's comments about her exposing the ******* to all the ridicule? Are there any? Is she sleeping with him too?

Not sure about HiHummer and her whoring ways but was in the rig that tore up the alpine meadow and rumor has it she ditched her husband again and screwed the guy driving that drove the rig. You guys are lucky she left here or she might be trying to slut her way around here to.

Slappy White 09-19-2007 07:26 AM
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and they even ran off Alec for sticking up for Hummbebe. Plus he told them to never come back to Colorado after what they'd done to that alpine meadow. Phil even tried to cover it up. So did all of the other *******ers. Their really dicks.

Birdman 09-19-2007 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Slappy White
You guys are lucky she left here or she might be trying to slut her way around here to.

The truth is that you are lucky if you actually do sleep with her. That way you'll be sure leave and be done with it. Others like Ipedog are destined for a lifetime of lovesick puppylove, always hoping he'll be the next number called for a visit to the hotel room.

Noskin 09-19-2007 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Slappy White
Not sure about HiHummer and her whoring ways but was in the rig that tore up the alpine meadow and rumor has it she ditched her husband again and screwed the guy driving that drove the rig. You guys are lucky she left here or she might be trying to slut her way around here to.

Believe me on this because I was a close victim also (Because my girlfriend is way hotter). She'll flirt with any stranger. Like I mean rub your crotch just so she could see your reaction. A stranger could have her by merely asking. She is grotesque. I know as a fact she slept with a few of the HX guys.

Noskin 09-19-2007 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slappy White
and they even ran off Alec for sticking up for Hummbebe. Plus he told them to never come back to Colorado after what they'd done to that alpine meadow. Phil even tried to cover it up. So did all of the other *******ers. Their really dicks.

Alec is not only fun to wheel with but a stand up guy who saw the black and white in the whole situation. He got attacked too for sticking up for humbebe. Phil doesn't care about anything. He's all about milking money out of the members.

Slappy White 09-19-2007 07:41 AM
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I do feel kind of bad for alec cuz he doesn't really have anywhere to go online now. But he did stand his ground on the destruction of the meadow, I heard that hihummer even tried to give him a blowjob to keep him quiet. Rumor has it that she had a big "cold sore" so he turned her down.

Birdman 09-19-2007 07:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noskin
I know as a fact she slept with a few of the HX guys.

A few? Man your news is out of date. With this recent episode, she's even sleeping with Ipedog to keep him quiet.

There's a reason they call her MYHUMMER.

DennisAJC 09-19-2007 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noskin
Alec is not only fun to wheel with but a stand up guy who saw the black and white in the whole situation. He got attacked too for sticking up for humbebe. Phil doesn't care about anything. He's all about milking money out of the members.

He's also an expert in some areas of plumbing and gardening.

h2co-pilot 09-19-2007 11:08 AM
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Wow, the trouble on the Island of Misfitia.:D

So, HiHummer was driving through some vegitation? Bebe and Alec put forth effort to fix it, in their efforts to save part of a trail that was ruined by a fellow hummer owner, they got chewed out by the Hummer X members? Why because someone mentioned hummer X in the clean up?

Hummer X should have stepped in first and I guess there wouldn't have been a problem. Where do all the dues go anyway?? Isn't Alec the Club captain or whatever in CO?

I need a recap, do we have pictures?

Cryptain Crunch 09-19-2007 03:58 PM
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What is wrong with destroying some plants?:violin:

They'll grow back.:rolleyes:

KenP 09-19-2007 09:08 PM
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You know what, the more I think about this, the madder I get.

We already have a bad enough reputation with the enviro-wack jobs out there, and *******'ers go and pull this crap.

What a bunch of idiots.

Birdman 09-19-2007 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cryptain Crunch
What is wrong with destroying some plants?:violin:

They'll grow back.:rolleyes:


What's wrong with you. I suppose you also think it's cool to bushwhack through the protected swamplands tearing up the environment with your swashbuckling sword. It's people like you that give Hummer owners and Zorros a bad name.

ssgharkness020147 09-19-2007 10:02 PM
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Look who decided to rear his ugly head once again. And it begins::OWNED:



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryptain Crunch
What is wrong with destroying some plants?:violin:

They'll grow back.:rolleyes:

tower 09-19-2007 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cryptain Crunch
What is wrong with destroying some plants?:violin:

They'll grow back.:rolleyes:

Cryptobiotic soil crusts, consisting of soil cyanobacteria, lichens and mosses, play an important ecological role in the arid Southwest. In the cold deserts of the Colorado Plateau region (parts of Utah, Arizona Colorado, and New Mexico), these crusts are extraordinarily well-developed, often representing over 70 percent of the living ground cover. Cryptobiotic crusts increase the stability of otherwise easily eroded soils, increase water infiltration in regions that receive little precipitation, and increase fertility in soils often limited in essential nutrients such as nitrogen and carbon (Harper and Marble, 1988; Johansen, 1993; Metting, 1991; Belnap and Gardner, 1993; Belnap, 1994; Williams et al., 1995).

 Cryptobiotic soil crusts are highly susceptible to soil-surface disturbance such as trampling by hooves or feet, or driving of off-road vehicles, especially in soils with low aggregate stability such as areas of sand dunes and sheets in the Southwest, in particular over much of the Colorado Plateau (Belnap and Gardner, 1993; Gillette et al., 1980; Webb and Wilshire, 1983). When crusts in sandy areas are broken in dry periods, previously stable areas can become moving sand dunes in a matter of only a few years.

Figure 4. Crust in sandy soils. The visible fibers are Microcoleus vaginatus. Note how Microcoleus connects the otherwise loose sand grains together, thus preventing wind and water erosion. Microcoleus is important in enhancing water and nutrient relations within the soil, as well. Scale bar is 100 micrometers. Click on image for full size.
Cyanobacterial filaments, lichens, and mosses are brittle when dry, and crush easily when subjected to compressional or shear forces by activities such as trampling or vehicular traffic. Many soils in these areas are thin and are easily removed without crust protection. As most crustal biomass is concentrated in the top 3 mm of the soil, very little erosion can have profound consequences for ecosystem dynamics. Because crustal organisms are only metabolically active when wet, re-establishment time is slow in arid systems. While cyanobacteria are mobile, and can often move up through disturbed sediments to reach needed light levels for photosynthesis, lichens and mosses are incapable of such movement, and often die as a result. On newly disturbed surfaces, mosses and lichens often have extremely slow colonization and growth rates. Assuming adjoining soils are stable and rainfall is average, recovery rates for lichen cover in southern Utah have been most recently estimated at a minimum of 45 years, while recovery of moss cover was estimated at 250 years (Belnap, 1993).
Because of such slow recolonization of soil surfaces by the different crustal components, underlying soils are left vulnerable to both wind and water erosion for at least 20 years after disturbance (Belnap and Gillette, 1997). Because soils take 5,000 to 10,000 years to form in arid areas such as in southern Utah (Webb, 1983), accelerated soil loss may be considered an irreversible loss. Loss of soil also means loss of site fertility through loss of organic matter, fine soil particles, nutrients, and microbial populations in soils (Harper and Marble, 1988; Schimel et al., 1985). Moving sediments further destabilize adjoining areas by burying adjacent crusts, leading to their death, or by providing material for "sandblasting" nearby surfaces, thus increasing wind erosion rates (Belnap, 1995; McKenna-Neumann et al., 1996).

Bebe, I don't know you, but I like you already :perfect10s: and I applaud :clapping: the efforts you and Alec made to make things right. Unfortunately, the old saw of "No good deed goes unpunished" seems to apply here. I guess the thinking over at the HXC is we fukked up, we're guilty, but screw you for telling the truth about it and trying to fix things out of your own pocket. I am very disappointed in hearing this, because my Hummer dealer out here (at their last event) tried to get me to join HXC and I was considering doing so. They even had applications! They will certainly hear about this fiasco from me in So Cal. So, if anyone has photos, news reports or any hard evidence of what happened please post or PM me.

Birdman 09-19-2007 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tower
I guess the thinking over at the HXC is we fukked up, we're guilty, but screw you for telling the truth about it and trying to fix things out of your own pocket.

Almost. Except the part about "we fukked up". The idiots that did the damage still won't own up to it. And the bigger idiots that have hammered Hummbebe won't admit any fault either on the part of the perpetrators. If they spent 1/10th of the time they've wasted on attacking Hummbebe actually rectifying the Colorado situation they'd probably look like heroes by addressing the problem. Instead, idiots like Bondage spend 5 hours a day whining about the only people that actually did any good for the situation.

Cryptain Crunch 09-19-2007 11:01 PM
Re: Group of HummerXers Destroys Alpine Meadow???
 
So you guys are pissed off over some

"Crust in sandy soils. The visible fibers called Microcoleus vaginatus." :{

Rediculous.


It's mold, that's all it is. MOLD!

And Bebe shouldn't have mentioned Hummer X. That's not good for our club. It's just because of her high and mighty attitude, she wants to feel important at the cost of others. Just so she could look like she saved the day. BS!!!!

I CAN"T BELEIVE YOU PEOPLE!!!!

SERIOUSLY: MOVE ON!!!!


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