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2345 07-25-2007 05:37 PM

Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Hi guys i am brand new to the hummer seen and i am purchasing a 08 h3 and going to add the rancho 4 inch lift kit and wondering if the alpha extra power would help me out off roading and highway driving, or would it be better to get there regular model and turbo charge that? Thanks Alot

Spuds 07-25-2007 06:28 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
There's no substitute for Cubic Inches......

Plus issues of possibly voiding your warranty adding a turbo.....

Wisha Haddan H3 07-25-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
The alpha has a cast iron front diff. The I-5 uses an aluminum one that will likely grenade if you put a turbo on it.

Viet Nam Vette 07-25-2007 08:09 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
The Alpha is engineered for the extra torque and HP. I think the the Alpha package adds about $4000 to the invoice. But you getting a GM Engineered Warranted Vehicle. Those After Market Superchargers are around $5000.

There nothing more the a supercharger made to work on the I-5. How good..??? Wouldn't want to find out after blowing up a diff or tranny and find out I have no Factory GM Waranty left.
:lame:

Stick with the GM Engineered ALpha..
:beerchug:

2345 07-25-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
hey thanks guys i really appreciate the help

lance-n 07-25-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
btw - if you are buying the h3 for off-road use, be careful with adding all that lift and changing the center of gravity. the extreme off road guys on this forum tend to increase tire size, do a torsion bar crank, etc to fit bigger tires without having to add a lift.
just a suggestion.

marin8703 07-25-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3
The alpha has a cast iron front diff. The I-5 uses an aluminum one that will likely grenade if you put a turbo on it.


i thought the cast iron fron diff will be across the line on 08 and up. no??

Matt19 07-25-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
if you know about cars (h3s) then you can upgrade your car for the better if you can without screwing it up. But if you dont know jack, and want more power, get the alpha. I dont know if it offroads better, but it has more power. I guess it climbs better, but I dont know, i havent offroaded with my 07.
On the other hand, how can an alpha help with highway driving? A 1988 Civic can drive on the highway, so why wouldnt an 06-07 h3 not be able to?
I dont understand people these days.

2345 07-25-2007 11:04 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
^whats your problem :rolleyes: these other guys already answered my question so go cry somewhere else:crying:

Steve - SanJose 07-26-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marin8703
i thought the cast iron fron diff will be across the line on 08 and up. no??


Sounds like a logical idea, but that's not what I heard here.

Steve - SanJose 07-26-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
2345 (or is it 6789) - What's the price difference on the 08 regular vs. Alpha that you are being quoted?

For the typical H3 owner, the power difference on the road will be the biggest advantage of the Alpha.

2345 07-26-2007 04:07 AM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
^ i heard around 34,000 from my dealer for the alpha

RuggedH2 07-26-2007 11:11 AM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2345
Hi guys i am brand new to the hummer seen and i am purchasing a 08 h3 and going to add the rancho 4 inch lift kit and wondering if the alpha extra power would help me out off roading and highway driving, or would it be better to get there regular model and turbo charge that? Thanks Alot


Hummer scene?

The question is kinda dumb (don't get all sensitive). If you were going to turbo charge or super charge a brand new engine, and a larger displacement engine for the same model was available, why wouldn't you try that first? The GM warranty is valuable if you plan to off road your truck. They've been good at standing behind mine for damages sustained while off road.

In some situations (rare by my guess) the extra power might help you off road, but in most cases it is power (the misapplication of) that breaks things off road. The H3 has plenty of power (torque) in four low locked, with the 5 cylinder motor available. This is mostly due to gearing. They geared the Alpha from 4.56's to 4.10's because of the new engine power.

Steve - SanJose 07-26-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2345
^ i heard around 34,000 from my dealer for the alpha


Is that US dollars for currency?

marin8703 07-27-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose
Sounds like a logical idea, but that's not what I heard here.


geeez, that would suck. this shoudl definately be across the line, its just extra expenses to produce too separate parts that will do the exact same task. seems like a waste if its not across the line.

oh and Matt, that price tag of $34000 aint gonna happen, unless your packing some serious discounts, umm... like $10,000 worth

Steve - SanJose 07-27-2007 09:13 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marin8703
geeez, that would suck. this shoudl definately be across the line, its just extra expenses to produce too separate parts that will do the exact same task. seems like a waste if its not across the line.



Agreed, lame, bad decision for the consumer.

Spuds 07-27-2007 10:01 PM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose
Agreed, lame, bad decision for the consumer.


Another one of those things from GM that make you go Hmmmmmm.....

Steve - SanJose 07-28-2007 02:53 AM

Re: Really need help Rancho, alpha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds
Another one of those things from GM that make you go Hmmmmmm.....


For sure, they may have partially turned the corner, but still a ways to go.


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