Crawl Ratio??
I did a search and didnt find any results. Does anyone know the crawl ratio for a manual transmission with off-road package? Iv never needed to
be in 1st gear and 4 low at the sametime. Anyone know that ratio? |
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Not sure how accurate that is. Its from 2004 and they still list the two different rear axle ratios. :rolleyes: ;)
From Hummer's site: CRAWL RATIO:
BASE VEHICLE: 45.0:1
WITH OPTIONAL OFF-ROAD SUSPENSION PACKAGE: 68.9:1 No mention of man v. auto. :confused: http://www.hummer.com/popups/h3/h3_full_specs.pdf |
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Sounds like you need to come out with us again. ;) :D |
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Sounds right to me, can't remember the auto, but know it is in the mid to high 50s, so I would say you have it correct.
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H3 came out in 2006, what they listed in 2004 is innacurate. The H3 uses only one gear ratio for any model in 2006 and that is 4.56:1.
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Look at the H3 Brochure from the dealer.
It has both the auto and manual ratios. Sorry my book is at home. |
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You also need to factor in the torque multiplication of an auto, usually giving a 4x at the lowest revs needed for rock - crawling.
This will equate to closer to 200:1 for an auto transmission (and you won't need three feet while rock crawling). -C |
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You are suggesting the automatic transmission quadruples the torque over a standard transmission? |
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LOL - I thought I was stupid or uneducated. Please explain how (if true)
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This has been discussed a few other times, and sorry to tell you, the brochure from the dealer is incorrect. (That's why it has a little disclaimer on the bottom talking about errors.) :D I have personally checked with the axle engineer in charge of the H3 (quite a few times on other subjects too:eek: ), the brand quality chassis manager has been in our facility quite a few times, and the service engineer for this part is a close friend...it is a 4.56:1 ratio in the Diffs. (Trans 1st gear ratio x transfer case ratio x axle ratio = crawl ratio) AUTO Off-Road:3.059 x 4 x 4.56 = 55.796 (rounded to 56:1) Non-Off-Road: 3.059 x 2.64 x 4.56 = 36.825 (rounded 37:1) MANUAL Off-Road: 3.78 x 4 x 4.56 = 68.947 (rounded 69:1) Non-Off-Road: 3.78 x 2.64 x 4.56 = 45.505 (rounded 46:1) NOTE: The manual first gear might be 3.79, I came across two specs in my PAD drawings for this gear. |
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HA!!!:D
No correction for Bebe this time:D :D :D :D |
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You got lucky. :p :D |
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Thanks for the info F5. It would have been nice if Hummer posted both the manual and auto specs on their site. But I guess that's marketing for you. :rolleyes:
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The torque converter has a multiplier value depending on RPM, but 4x seems high. I have seen numbers between 1.5 and 2 for some auto trannies.
For example, the H1 torque converter ratio is 2.2:1, according to this link http://www.kellyhummer.com/h1.htm |
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Does anyone know the multiplier value of the H3's 4L60e? I'm curious about the torque multiplier curve too ... at what RPMs do you get the most out the converter?
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Every equation I have ever seen for a crawl ratio has never taken into account the torque converter. Reason is it is next to impossible since the converter slips at a different rate at different engine rpms. Therefore, the calculation would be next to impossible. You would have to figure out all the different rpms you would have in a given range.
All crawl ratios are figured without the torque converter taken into account by any manufacturer I have ever seen. I have seen calculations for the H1, but it also takes into account the wheel multipliers too. |
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Thanks f5fstop ... I appreciate the info.
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