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DRTYFN 11-20-2002 04:35 PM

I'm very curious to hear some feedback from anyone that has swapped out their OEM headlights for HID's.
I've been looking at the set at Breathless and also the system at the Sylvania site.

DRTYFN 11-20-2002 04:35 PM

I'm very curious to hear some feedback from anyone that has swapped out their OEM headlights for HID's.
I've been looking at the set at Breathless and also the system at the Sylvania site.

Happy Hummer 11-21-2002 12:09 AM

I bought the kit from breathless and install took about 20 minutes. The lights are VERY BRIGHT. The only thing is that you have no high beams. I just aimed my brush fog lights up higher and use them. I really don't need the high beams since these are about 150% brighter than stock lights.

ROB

2003 Hummer H2, Lux. Black
2002 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo
2003 Honda Odyssey EX
2003 Harley V-Rod 2 Tone

DRTYFN 11-21-2002 12:43 AM

NO HIGH BEAMS!!!! I spoke with the Breathless phone-monkey and specifically asked if they were high and low beams. I was told they were. Which company manufactures the lights?

BreathlessPerformance.com 11-27-2002 06:26 PM

Phone Monkey??? Did I speak to you or who did you talk to? That is the first time we have been called that. Our staff goes out of the way to try to help our customers, if you feel that they did not help you please let me know who it was.

The HID kit for the H2 has only the Low beam. We can get you a Low & High but your light output would not be brighter and you would have to worry about a electric motor inside the bulb kit burning out.

Thank You, Ernie
BreathlessPerformance.com

JCJ 11-28-2002 10:27 AM

"Ice White Platinum High Performance Xenon"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1873536201&ed=10388774 38&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOT:MT:3

Then why a lot cheaper than Breathless' HID?

JCJ 11-28-2002 10:31 AM

This one HAS high beam and you get also a set to replace the day running lights included!
BTW folks, check your DRL bulbs. I found mine were quite dark/burned at the base on inspection.
Maybe they need replacement before burning out, say like every 6 months?

MAC 11-28-2002 02:46 PM

Aruba, These IceWhite looks nice. It says they are direct replacement, does that mean no special wiring needed, as with other xenon lamps? You just put them in as you would replace a bulb? Judging by what I read there, it $60 each bulb, but must buy 4? $240 or $60 total? Very very nice. Thanks for showing them to us.

JCJ 11-28-2002 03:06 PM

MAC. Been studying the HID thing a little closer:
1. The kit ($ 60 total) includes all 4 bulbs (2 headlights, low and high beam, and 2 DRL bulbs, they call 'm fog lights).
2. The big difference between this $ 60 set and the more expensive HID lights is the "Color temperature" you get. The cheaper set gets to 5500 K ("Ice White"). The more expensive sets (like the one from Breathless, I guess and the other one on eBay) has even a higher Color Temperature (in the 8000 Kelvin).
3. I chose to try out a deal the local automotive shop offered me: similar "cheap" set of all 4 front white (Xenon) lights for $ 30 (total!). And I tell you the white intense light it gives you is phenominal! I don't know if I could see a difference between 5500 K color temp or 8000 K.
4. And it's just replacement bulbs. No balasts or other extra wiring needed.
5. I would suggest to pass by your local automotive supply store and check out the lighting section for those blue/ice/white bulbs and bring the original bulbs for comparance (# 9007).
6. Of course I would like to hear suggestions of corrections from those more up to date on the HID subject.
You're welcome. JCJ

MAC 11-28-2002 03:43 PM

Wonderful, Dr. Hannibal Lecter. $30 or $60 iceWhite is all I need. I would think lower temp the better. I will absolutely go with your suggestion and visit the auto stores. Do you have any brand and parts numbers for the ones you are using now? Why pay $600 when I can pay $60, why pay $60 when I only have to pay $30? Best value for a truely useful product.
Not sure DRL needs iceWhite, its daylight anyway. Or maybe not, iceWhite shines even during the day, will look nicer.

I have been eagerly searching high and low and want to add something to my Hummer, but personally I have not seen anything I need nor want. Its like a kid with fresh holiday money standing in a toy store looking for the right toy. I see all these other kids walking out of the store with 1000 watts stereo, GPS, 4 LCDs, exhaust and inflatable dolls.

JCJ 11-28-2002 04:26 PM

Okay, so MAC wants his brains picked.

Replacement Head light bulb: Herrero & Sons Corp Automotive Accessories, Item # 15.BH9007/1X. Xenon Halogen Bulb, 100/80 (high/low) watts 12 volts, X-treme white.

Replacement RDL bulb: LUKS BX-523 Xenon/Krypton+ Blue, 12 V 35/5 watts.

Bon apetit!

JCJ

MAC 11-28-2002 06:11 PM

These are what I found. Aruba's $30 a set of is still the best price by 50% less.

HIGH INTENSITY AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING

HID lights are a hot option offered on some of today’s high-end luxury cars. These new type of lights offer significantly better long-range vision because of the “ultra white” light that they produce.
Unfortunately, true HID lighting is still very expensive and only available from the factory on a few vehicles at this point. While there are some aftermarket kits becoming available, these kits require custom installations (inclusive of ballasts and special wiring) and still run in the $1200-1800 range. There is an inexpensive alternative:
“ Xenon HID-White” Light Bulbs!

“Xenon HID-White” bulbs have a special blue glass that actually increases the color temperature (4000K) of the bulb closer to that of daylight, thus producing a significantly whiter light beam, resulting in greatly improved night vision. This special process dramatically increases the whiteness of the light with only a trace of blue hue at the headlight periphery. The improvement in night vision provided by these light bulbs is dramatically illustrated below: (Not shown on this posting)

“Xenon HID-White’s” utilize a Halogen/Xenon/Krypton gas mixture to cool the light filament, thus allowing the bulb to process higher light output resulting in a 30 percent increase in perceived light. These high-end “Xenon HID-White” bulbs cost just about the same as any standard good quality regular replacement bulb!!
While this type of bulb is not completely equal to the light output of a true HID system, It’s a very viable alternative at about 97% savings!
"Easy Installation and a Great Price!"

EASY INSTALLATION
The installation of “Xenon White’s” is VERY easy. Just replace your current regular light bulbs with these. It’s just that simple!
Your brilliant Xenon Replacement Bulb
Sets (2-bulbs) cost only: $ 15.95 - 28.95

We also carry a brand new DOT-Compliant (street legal) “Platinum Series” (3800K) version of our Xenon HID-White headlight bulbs that are “100% street legal”. These bulbs feature a pale lavender colored glass that provides a significantly brighter and whiter light beam than standard halogen bulbs. These bulbs also utilize a high-performance gas mixture of Halogen/Xenon/Krypton gases for increased performance while still keeping the operating temperatures low.

http://www.autostockinc.com/xenon.html

JCJ 11-28-2002 09:47 PM

By checking out http://www.autostockinc.com/bulbs.html
I guess your best and comparable choice would be to order a set of the 9007 (HB5; including license to kill?) 110/80 watts HID bulbs for $ 24.95 (+ S&H, battery not incluided [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]). However I don't see the DRL bulbs.
Good luck. I'm sure you'll like it too...

MAC 11-28-2002 10:03 PM

But you paid $30 for set of 4, does it consisted 2 for head lamps and 2 for DRL? It may search for them in auto stores, the Kragan chain around here are all in very shape with limited inventory and salespeople don't know much. Some of these HID bulbs are "street legal", which means others are not legal, that is not a main point but taken into consideration, I assume the stree legal ones are less bright?
Thanks for bring them to our attention, I did not know such economical and effective solution existed. Exactly what I wanted.

JCJ 11-28-2002 10:41 PM

Yup: I paid (the equivalent of) $ 30 for 4 (four) HID bulbs, 2 head lights and 2 DRL lights ($ 7.50 each). Of course they might not be the REAL HID thing, but right now I don't think I would see the difference (yet) if I could compare them with the (much) more expensive thing with (real?) Hella Xenon gas in 'm and ballasts etc.
Now I know you're thinking: Hey, sell 'm on E-bay. I am sorry, I don't have that much time.
Just enough to sit and semi-chat here on the H2 forum.

MAC 11-29-2002 02:35 AM

Nope, I didn't think about eBay. I'll just pay a little more and buy them online, save me a trip to those auto parts joints, don't know why people work there are always so rude and impatient. Sent an email inquiry to that online outfit about DRL bulbs, see what they say, or buy the eBay ones at $60. Good enough for me, why mess with balast, wires or whatever you call it. Maximum benefit for the least cost & energy.

MAC 11-30-2002 06:26 PM

9007 (HB5) XENON Platinum 2-Bulb Set
New DOT compliant 2-bulb set producing a "brilliantly white" beam of light.
Featuring new lavender colored glass envelope and an exotic mixture of Halogen/Xenon/Krypton gases for excellent output with a color temperature of 3800K! Since this bulb is DOT compliant, it is considered 100% street legal!
#DOT-9007XPP2...$24.95
http://www.demandmotorsports.com/MM006.ASP?pageno=32

For DRL replacement Xenon gas charged 3157 Dual filament wedge bulb. Designed to match your HID or Xenon type headlight bulbs. Natural blue color. $8.95 each.
http://www.demandmotorsports.com/MM004.ASP?pageno=43

For DRL replacement bulb, there are LED bulbs @ $9.95 each. In red, amber (yellow) colors.
http://www.demandmotorsports.com/MM003.ASP?pageno=61

MAC 11-30-2002 10:37 PM

I just ordered the Xenon bulbs online, will let you know how they work out. For the DRL, I ordered amber(yellow) LED bulbs, have no idea what they are, no risk no gain.

buddy 12-03-2002 11:28 PM

I just finished installing the HID kit from Ernie at Breatheless Performance. These HID's eliminate the high beam, but still illuminate the road better than stock high beams.

The install is very easy. Just one of those plug and play deals. No cutting of any of the factory wiring, splicing, or soldering. Easy upgrade..
Sounds like I work for Ernie doesn't it..but I would like to say, "Thanks Ernie". Now I can see again at night without running my high beams all the time.

Now, if we just this beast to run like the Z06.

Buddy

DRTYFN 12-04-2002 02:46 AM

What's that you say? NO HIGH BEAMS?!!!! See!!!! I told you that those guys at breathless are full of it!! Ernie gets on here and gives me the riot act because I simply said that his phone monkey had told me that there were no high beams. And now that one of us has finally installed the HID's from breathless and given all of JAson's children a definitive answer that NO there are NO HIGHBEAMS I would just like to say to Ernie- TTTTHHHHHHHHHPPPPPPPTTTT!!!!!!(rasberry) [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img]


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