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Huck BB62 11-18-2005 11:37 AM

Hi folks, we live in the mountains and need better headlights, the stock ones are woefully inadequate. I don't want anything bolt on. I read the other posts, are the 100w highbeams bad for the vehicle? Can they be redone to utilize the stock wiring to run relays and power the headlights directly from the battery?

Huck BB62 11-18-2005 11:37 AM

Hi folks, we live in the mountains and need better headlights, the stock ones are woefully inadequate. I don't want anything bolt on. I read the other posts, are the 100w highbeams bad for the vehicle? Can they be redone to utilize the stock wiring to run relays and power the headlights directly from the battery?

kodiakz 11-18-2005 12:45 PM

Get an HID conversion. You will be glad you did!!

H3H 11-18-2005 04:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kodiakz:
Get an HID conversion. You will be glad you did!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where did you get the bi-xenons from?

f5fstop 11-18-2005 08:44 PM

100w bulbs push the limit of the 10 amp fuse (one for each headlamp). What people don't seem to understand is that generators fluctuate their output, and in the winter with all accessories on, it might drop to below 10 volts, if only for a split second.
The PCM which regulates the generator's output does not increase output instantaneously since this could shorten the life of the generator. (Ever notice how your lights may dim for a second when the brakes are applied?)
However, there are bulbs out there that draw 55/65W, but state they output the equivalent of 100W on the highbeam. Not sure if this is all that true.

I haven't checked, but I don't see why you couldn't cut the feed wire, run the headlamp side of the cut feed wire through a relay and power it directly off the battery. Just use the feedwire from the BCM to the relay to turn it on when the headlamps are turned on.
If the lights do not turn on then, you might have to install a resistor in the BCM wire to fake out the BCM into thinking there is a bulb on the other end. This might or might not be necessary. Not sure if the H3's BCM is designed to shut down the circuit if no resistance is sensed.

WPBGUY 11-19-2005 02:18 AM

The BCM monitors current to the lamps?
Is ther a bulb failure indication feature?

kodiakz 11-19-2005 02:23 AM

According to the application guide, your bulbs are H13. Here is a link to a conversion kit for the your H3
http:// www. xtralights .com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=31

Huck BB62 11-19-2005 04:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3H:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kodiakz:
Get an HID conversion. You will be glad you did!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where did you get the bi-xenons from? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looking at the literature for the kit that kodiak is talking about, it's only 3.2A. The HID seems to put out more light, less current. I may just try them.

f5fstop 11-19-2005 11:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WPBGUY:
The BCM monitors current to the lamps?
Is ther a bulb failure indication feature? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No bulb indication failure, but the BCM controls all lights. Can't verify at this time if the BCM controls each circuit separately or via via a relay.

Sportsdude 11-20-2005 02:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huck BB62:
Hi folks, we live in the mountains and need better headlights, the stock ones are woefully inadequate. I don't want anything bolt on. I read the other posts, are the 100w highbeams bad for the vehicle? Can they be redone to utilize the stock wiring to run relays and power the headlights directly from the battery? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm using the high wattage bulb 80/100, 5000K at present until I can find a good HID that has both Hi/Low beam with the look of a traditional headlight rather than projector. I had to upgrade the wiring and run seperate relay and fuse directly from the battery. Much improvement from stock lighting.

kodiakz 11-20-2005 06:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">until I can find a good HID that has both Hi/Low beam with the look of a traditional headlight rather than projector </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Once you've seen the huge imporvements in light dispersion and direction provided by projectors, you probably would not want to give them up!!!

HUMRCHIC 02-01-2006 12:37 PM

Just reading through doing a little research. I bought these..Xenon Bulbs

Do I need a conversion kit? or do I just unplug the old ones and pop these in?

BABHUMV 02-01-2006 01:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMRCHIC:
Just reading through doing a little research. I bought these..Xenon Bulbs

Do I need a conversion kit? or do I just unplug the old ones and pop these in? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pop and plug. I did this and am not happy at all with the results. Looking into the HID conversion setup.

HUMRCHIC 02-01-2006 02:24 PM

Oh No, What happened? And what don't you like?

BABHUMV 02-01-2006 02:44 PM

I found these HID conversions on ebay for about $200.00. But, I noticed that when converted you lose the High Beam function. Has anyone else done the convertion, and if so are the low beams bright enogh to not need the highs?
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks

BABHUMV 02-01-2006 02:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMRCHIC:
Oh No, What happened? And what don't you like? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Even though the lights are a cool blue color, it seems they are not as bright as the original Halogens. The headlights were very easy to install, make sure to keep your fingers off of the glass, so try them and see what you think, but do not throw away the originals.

HUMRCHIC 02-01-2006 03:26 PM

Really? It says they provide 75% more light than halogens. May I ask what brand your are?
I'm starting to fret about it.

FishnMan 02-01-2006 06:56 PM

Check my previous post about my bulb switch. In a nutshell, the headlights look cool but actually produce/project less light, while the foglights are really quite bright (making you more visible, and lighting up the road better, in adverse weather.New lightbulb install

Huck BB62 02-01-2006 08:15 PM

I just properly adjusted my headlights (1.5 turns counterclockwise) and the world is good. Seems like they have them too low from the factory. The factory lamps, properly adjusted work great.

usmctopgun 02-02-2006 01:31 AM

I am not sure what size the H3 has, but I put a set of these in my H2. I love them, a BIG improvement over stock. I also replaced my DRL's with the PIAA 3157.
PIAA 9007


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