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Mr. I - Man 05-30-2006 10:35 PM

Never forget your training!
 
Tuesday , May 30, 2006

OAS_AD('Frame1');ATLANTA ? A former Marine used a pocket knife to fend off a group of would-be robbers, killing one and wounding another, police said.
Thomas Autry, who authorities said will not be charged, had been walking home from his job waiting tables Monday night when four people got out of a car and chased him, Atlanta police detective Danny Stephens said.
One of the attackers had a shotgun and another had a pistol, Stephens said.
The suspects caught up with Autry, who yelled for help and pulled a knife out of his backpack. He kicked the shotgun out of one of the attacker's hands and stabbed both a 17-year-old girl who jumped on him and a man who also attacked him.
The suspects fled in their car but police found them later at a hospital where the girl was pronounced dead. The man stabbed in the incident was in critical condition, Stephens said.
Autry's attackers will face robbery and aggravated assault charges and are suspected in other robberies over the past week, Stephen said.
Stephens credited Autry's military training with helping him fend off the group.
"I would say he had to do what he had to do to stop the threat," Stephens said. "You can tell his training kicked in and he knew what to do."
Autry, 36, suffered a cut to his hand and a bruise on his chest, Stephens said.

CO Hummer 05-30-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Never forget your training!
 
According to Shaggy, this kind of thing could never happen. :rolleyes:

Good to see that at least one of the attackers wound up dead.

MarineHawk 05-30-2006 10:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CO Hummer
According to Shaggy, this kind of thing could never happen. :rolleyes:

Good to see that at least one of the attackers wound up dead.


Imagine if Autry had merely had a .40 cal.?

The armed criminals wouldn't have had a chance.

Mr. I - Man 05-30-2006 10:54 PM

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Fvck the .40 cal ! Adapt and overcome!!

OOH RAH!

PARAGON 05-30-2006 11:35 PM

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Motivated Marine w/ edged weapon > (dumbass badguy with shotgun + another w/ pistol + stupid bitch + an even dumber badguy)

ShaggyX 05-31-2006 12:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CO Hummer
According to Shaggy, this kind of thing could never happen. :rolleyes:

I have never said anything remotely like that...but nice try. All I have said is that CC is stupid...and this guy proves my point. He did not need a gun. :p

NoMoGMPG 05-31-2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
Motivated Marine w/ edged weapon > (dumbass badguy with shotgun + another w/ pistol + stupid bitch + an even dumber badguy)


Amen.:cool:

h2co-pilot 05-31-2006 12:42 AM

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Thomas Autry = Chuck Norris :cool:

Mr. I - Man 05-31-2006 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Thomas Autry = Chuck Norris :cool:


Correction Thomas Autry > Chuck Norris:D

Chuck Norris was never a Marine!!

ETD 05-31-2006 02:34 AM

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I fear that I must agree with our young pacifist the shaggster. If he had a gun then there would not have been the three people left alive who peed in their pants and will probably think very hard about pulling that stunt again (hopefully while being pounded behind bars:mad: ). Again, in my ideal world, the warriors with the most skills win and no bystanders get shot by strays. There'll be blood and guts and limbs flying around but the good guys go home. Just a dream...

ETD 05-31-2006 02:41 AM

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BTW, Mr. Norris is one of the most admired person on my list and it has nothing to do with his movie or martial arts careers. The man has heart. With regards to his military career, needless to say, he served. http://www.military.com/Careers/Cont...m&area=Content

MarineHawk 05-31-2006 02:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ETD
I fear that I must agree with our young pacifist the shaggster. If he had a gun then there would not have been the three people left alive who peed in their pants and will probably think very hard about pulling that stunt again (hopefully while being pounded behind bars:mad: ). Again, in my ideal world, the warriors with the most skills win and no bystanders get shot by strays. There'll be blood and guts and limbs flying around but the good guys go home. Just a dream...


If that guy was able to mortally injure two of them with a pocket knife without them firing a shot, if he had had a .40 cal, he would have dropped all five of them there with far less risk to himself and surrounding people. There was no guaranty that, when Autry counter-attacked with the foot and knife, the armed criminals weren't going to start shooting randomly endagering people all over the place. With Autry armed with a gun, more criminals would have been more likely to die but no one else would have been. It would have ended quckly and decisively and with less risk to Autry. In the end, he came out on top, but the firearm would have made it more certain.
No big deal about the dead criminals. Death is what you deserve and should expect when you threaten another person's life in your desire to do criminal mischief. Not all life is valuable. The lives of people who enjoy killing and raping are not valuable. The more of them who die the better because that means that less good people with families get killed and raped.

NEOCON1 05-31-2006 03:12 AM

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i love a happy ending :D

Mr. I - Man 05-31-2006 05:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ETD
BTW, Mr. Norris is one of the most admired person on my list and it has nothing to do with his movie or martial arts careers. The man has heart. With regards to his military career, needless to say, he served. http://www.military.com/Careers/Cont...m&area=Content



Still not a Marine;)

GeorgeSSSS 05-31-2006 06:47 AM

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Four bad guys with guns vs. One Marine with a pocket knife.

The bad guys were outnumbered.

George SSSS

ETD 05-31-2006 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineHawk
The more of them who die the better because that means that less good people with families get killed and raped.


Can't argue with that. Too many people as it is living on Earth. BTW, imagine if the knife-wielding Marine had lived in Massachussetts instead of Georgia? He probably would have been arrested and then sued by the surviving thugs!

KenP 05-31-2006 10:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Thomas Autry = Chuck Norris :cool:

I heard Chuck is actually ghey.:confused:

Autry is cool as hell.:D

ETD 06-01-2006 04:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP
I heard Chuck is actually ghey.:confused:

Autry is cool as hell.:D


Well, don't know about that. I heard that Alexander the Great was ghey but he still was Alexander the Great !

Anyways, we had a teenager who became quadraplegic after an MVA. HE was with us a few weeks and he was devastated. Could not get him to smile. One day, out of the blue, Mr. Chuck Norris and his wife came over from CA to visit him. Apparently it was Mrs. Norris' birthday. They flew to NM to visit with a man dying from cancer and then came to see this boy whom they had heard about through a church group. I did not know that they were coming and walked into that. The boy could not stop smiling. The Norrises visited with the boy and prayed with him for sometimes. No rushed and no staged visit. They visited with us. We talked about Bruce Lee and Taekwondo. A weather system was coming in so the visit ended when we heard that. That's it. No posse. No media cameras. It wasn't even reported in the papers. They went back to CA to their baby twins whom they left for the day. I'm still not a Chuck Norris, the celebrity, fan but now I can say that he is a true warrior in the martial way. I believe that he and Rickson Gracie are from the same mold. I can't explain it to you who do not subscribe to that way.

lotus4s 06-01-2006 05:23 AM

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good story ETD, thanks for sharing that. Never liked his movies much, but always thought he was a good guy.

congrats to Mr. Autry as well!

evldave 06-02-2006 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOCON1
i love a happy ending :D


I usually have to pay extra for that. ;)


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