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cheappc.com 07-31-2006 07:34 AM

Transmission Slips?
 
Hey guys, i need your help, since i bought my h3 i loved it, everything about it, somethings i would improvise, but in all i love my ride, been wanting it since it came out.

ON thursday, i went to the bank and parked it, got out, put it on reverse, and then to drive to drive off, and i felt a jerk, and the transmission slipped, i put it back on park, and back to drive, and everything was ok, it happened again on friday, saturday.

Finally today, when i was on my way dropping my kids off to my x's, it slipped on the freeway, doing about 80mph, it just sllpped completely, i have a 9 year old and a 3 year old, and it really freaked me out, i was able to pull over and exit the freeway, then it went back to gear?

any thoughts??

f5fstop 07-31-2006 10:45 AM

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Dealer...

wannabeH3 07-31-2006 11:13 PM

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actually if you turn the screw on the hamburger valve two turns forwards it will adjust that. the dealer prolly didnt check that during final inspection.... har har you shouldnt need to ask this

TAKE IT TO THE DEALER

Dave LV 08-02-2006 06:22 AM

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The dealer will probably not be able to fix it if the computer did not record the event unless they can drive it for long enough that it repeats.

hmrlvr 08-02-2006 06:35 AM

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f5fstop 08-02-2006 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hmrlvr


There is a mention of a slip at 80 mph, that won't be a mount, unless it fell off.:D

Michael1 08-03-2006 03:31 AM

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Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael

evldave 08-03-2006 04:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1
Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael


Because one person has a transmission problem? Please explain your logic. I can see how if this was a used vehicle, the 'manual are less complex and therefore less likely to break down' argument, but for a new vehicle, how is it that it is more likely to break down just because it's automatic?

I'd be curious to see how many service calls there are on NEW automatic vs manual transmissions. Until I see a study that shows new manual transmissions are more reliable, I call BULL$HIT!

Wisha Haddan H3 08-03-2006 06:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1
Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael


Well, to each his own. I like manual trannys cause they're more fun, but it's not about their reliability.

Manuals have their own issues, like broken clutch cables/hydraulics, clutch pads, throw-out bearings, spring plates and on and on. They're easier to work on in some ways, but hardly trouble-free.

f5fstop 08-03-2006 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1
Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael


That's right, manuals never break; clutches don't wear, pressure plates don't break. (If you believe that, I have some ocean front property right outside Moab for sale.:D )

Agriv8r 08-03-2006 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
That's right, manuals never break; clutches don't wear, pressure plates don't break. (If you believe that, I have some ocean front property right outside Moab for sale.:D )


deep water access? any bulkhead footage??:D

Michael1 08-05-2006 12:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
That's right, manuals never break; clutches don't wear, pressure plates don't break. (If you believe that, I have some ocean front property right outside Moab for sale.:D )


I never say never, BUUUUTTT, if you know how to drive a manual, which sadly most people don't, you have a lot more control over clutch wear than you do with an automatic. The only clutch slip you should have with a manual is on startup, and if you let the RPM drop below idle, even that is just about negligible. Automatic? Clutches are slipping on every shift, as well as, on torque converter lockup. Pulling a trailer? That tears up the automatic's clutches on every shift. Again, the manual will only see the clutch wear once per startup. The synchros don't wear any differently at zero throttle or full throttle.

I've had 10 cars with manuals, and only one failure, a throw-out bearing due my not checking the clutch pedal freeplay. Clutch was still good at over 100,000 miles. On the other hand, I've had two cars with automatics, and both started slipping before 80,000 miles, and they were driven gently because I didn't want transmission problems.

Aamco didn't make a business on manual transmissions.

Don't take my word for it, though. Take a look at any of the forums. Even corrected for sales penetration, there are always many more problems with automatics: slipping, jerking, not shifting properly, not going into gear, noises, burned fluid, etc.

I'll stick to my nice simple manual transmission, where I control the wear and tear.:cool:

Dave, for you, I'd stick with the automatic. It's tough to drive with a beer in one hand with a manual. :D

Michael

Steve - SanJose 08-05-2006 12:47 AM

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I like manuals in my sports cars personally. Automatics I prefer in trucks especially if some towing is planned.

S.

f5fstop 08-05-2006 03:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1
I never say never, BUUUUTTT, if you know how to drive a manual, which sadly most people don't, you have a lot more control over clutch wear than you do with an automatic. The only clutch slip you should have with a manual is on startup, and if you let the RPM drop below idle, even that is just about negligible. Automatic? Clutches are slipping on every shift, as well as, on torque converter lockup. Pulling a trailer? That tears up the automatic's clutches on every shift. Again, the manual will only see the clutch wear once per startup. The synchros don't wear any differently at zero throttle or full throttle.

I've had 10 cars with manuals, and only one failure, a throw-out bearing due my not checking the clutch pedal freeplay. Clutch was still good at over 100,000 miles. On the other hand, I've had two cars with automatics, and both started slipping before 80,000 miles, and they were driven gently because I didn't want transmission problems.

Aamco didn't make a business on manual transmissions.

Don't take my word for it, though. Take a look at any of the forums. Even corrected for sales penetration, there are always many more problems with automatics: slipping, jerking, not shifting properly, not going into gear, noises, burned fluid, etc.

I'll stick to my nice simple manual transmission, where I control the wear and tear.:cool:

Dave, for you, I'd stick with the automatic. It's tough to drive with a beer in one hand with a manual. :D

Michael


And MAACO, the same original owner did not make a fortune painting new cars, eiither.
I will admit, manuals are for people who know how to shift, but most don't. Mauals are fantastic when stuck in sand or climbing big rocks. Never have to ride the clutch....:D ;)

However, I will agree, manuals when driving correctly do save at least $3.00 per year on fuel costs.;)

evldave 08-05-2006 06:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
However, I will agree, manuals when driving correctly do save at least $3.00 per year on fuel costs.;)


ROFLMAO!!!

:D

Michael1 08-05-2006 06:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
However, I will agree, manuals when driving correctly do save at least $3.00 per year on fuel costs.;)


You guys are just jealous that I'm saving all this money!:p :D

Michael

Chip 08-05-2006 07:17 PM

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My two cents: I like the auto for rock crawling with the adventure package. You don't have to keep working the clutch. Plus you get stabilitrack which is useful for twisty gravel roads. The only problem is that there is a lag, descending steep grades, shifting between 2nd and 3rd, which causes the H-3 to jump down the hill as the torque converter engages. It's smother if you ride the brakes rather than use the gears for engine braking. I hate that.

Michael1 08-06-2006 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip
My two cents: I like the auto for rock crawling with the adventure package. You don't have to keep working the clutch. Plus you get stabilitrack which is useful for twisty gravel roads. The only problem is that there is a lag, descending steep grades, shifting between 2nd and 3rd, which causes the H-3 to jump down the hill as the torque converter engages. It's smother if you ride the brakes rather than use the gears for engine braking. I hate that.


StabiliTrak is now standard on all models (includng manuals) for '07.

Michael

cheappc.com 08-10-2006 02:35 AM

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The transmission finally went out... completely,

they replaced the whole transmission, (my deposit hadnt even gone through yet....it was postdated)

they fixed it, and gave me three goodwill gestures:

1. 24-36 month full maintenance. (including brakes)

2. 100,000 mile warranty, plus $2000 giftcertificated (to buy roof marker lamps, etc.)

what do you guys think?

Wisha Haddan H3 08-10-2006 04:14 AM

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It's probably fine, but dealerships just make me naturally suspicious. The warranty I can understand, but the 2-3 yr maintenance and $2000 gift certificates? It just seems like a lot to keep your business. Maybe their cust serv surveys have been low and they need yours to come in high?


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