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ree 11-21-2006 08:11 PM

Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
I'm not a mechanic. But I know enough to know someone is trying to screw with me.

I took my wife's grand prix to a local shop because the tensioner pulley started screeching this morning. They claim the tensioner assembly is bad, but won't tell me what sort of tension readings they've gotten off the belt.

Unfortunately, replacing the assembly is a pain since it's integrated into the side of the ending and has some cooler lines going through it. So I decided to gamble with the old beast and ask them to replace just the pully. I'll get a second opinion on the tension measurement later. Bastards wanted to charge $65 for a pulley. I know that's wrong.

But then they claimed 1 hour labor to replace it!!!!! Isn't it just slip the belt off, remove the bolt, put on a new pulley, tighten a bolt, slip belt on??

Am I wrong to be angry? :rant::mad:

I'm becoming more of a DIY'er everyday.

ssgharkness020147 11-21-2006 08:28 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Call Napa. Or look online, you can get stuff pretty much for cost (sometimes less). Either way I bet napa has the whole tensioner for less then the pully.

ree 11-21-2006 08:46 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
I plan to go this route. I checked out autozone and advanced auto parts on line and they both had pulleys in the mid $20's.

I was stupid to think I could save a little of my time by spending a little of my money.

I was just venting here since no one's around my home office right now to bitch to.

KenP 11-21-2006 10:07 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Not sure how the belt is on the GP, but I had to take the wife's Lexus to the dealer to change a belt. Damn if I could 1) get a wrench to it and 2) see the nut.

Oh, the belt now screeches on start up when it didn't before.:crying: :rant:

ree 11-21-2006 10:11 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP
Not sure how the belt is on the GP, but I had to take the wife's Lexus to the dealer to change a belt. Damn if I could 1) get a wrench to it and 2) see the nut.

There's plenty of room on the GP. Not as much as the 2, but enough.

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Originally Posted by KenP
Oh, the belt now screeches on start up when it didn't before.:crying: :rant:

I replaced the belts and cleaned the pulleys on my H2 because of some annoying chirping. They had some cracks in them. But the replacement belts chirped more than the worn ones for about 2 weeks. I was pissed.:mad: They're quiet now though.

f5fstop 11-21-2006 10:59 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Depends on what engine and what year vehicle. However, from your description of the coolant hoses, I'll assume the old style with the 3.8L (L36/L67). Not sure if GM sells just the pulley, without the entire tensioner assembly.
Easy to diagnose with a long screwdriver to listen to the pulley while the engine runs.
On one of those engines mentioned above, the generator has to be removed.
As for one-hour time. I know of no dealers who charge anything less than one-hour to perform any job. In fact, a lot of aftermarket shops charge a minimum of one-hour to do any job (unless it is an advertised job like tire rotation, oil change, etc.)
Even furnace repair charge a minimum of one-hour.

ree 11-22-2006 12:14 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
Depends on what engine and what year vehicle. However, from your description of the coolant hoses, I'll assume the old style with the 3.8L (L36/L67). Not sure if GM sells just the pulley, without the entire tensioner assembly.
Easy to diagnose with a long screwdriver to listen to the pulley while the engine runs.

My wife is a doctor, so I used her stethoscope to locate the bad pulley . :p
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On one of those engines mentioned above, the generator has to be removed.

You're right on the engine, 3.8 vin K on a '98. You have to drain coolant and remove the generator.
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As for one-hour time. I know of no dealers who charge anything less than one-hour to perform any job. In fact, a lot of aftermarket shops charge a minimum of one-hour to do any job (unless it is an advertised job like tire rotation, oil change, etc.)
Even furnace repair charge a minimum of one-hour.
I do understand this, but when I question the labor estimate, he hemed and hawed about how "it was a little more involved..." Had he just said, we can't afford to run a shop and charge less than 1 hour labor, I'd have respected the answer and maybe even said do it then.

dеiтайожни 11-22-2006 12:32 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Try pulling up to the mechanic and sit there, everytime he moves... flash your lights. :jump:

BlueHUMMERH2 11-22-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Shouldn't the job times be programmed into the computer? I'm just curious. Maybe they all have a minimum of 1 hour.

f5fstop 11-22-2006 01:07 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
One hour is very reasonable, considering they have to drain the coolant (not all the way, but lower than the coolant bottle and heater hoses), then remove the generator, and the tensioner assembly, they put every thiing back.

fourfourto 11-22-2006 01:12 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
I replaced the tensioner pully in my 95 riviera with a supercharged 3.8 L
It took about 1/2 hour at my brothers shop .I didnt remove coolant or alt.
I had a 2 belt system .Might have took me 1 hour in the driveway
Definatly replace the belt .

f5fstop 11-22-2006 02:14 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fourfourto
I replaced the tensioner pully in my 95 riviera with a supercharged 3.8 L
It took about 1/2 hour at my brothers shop .I didnt remove coolant or alt.
I had a 2 belt system .Might have took me 1 hour in the driveway
Definatly replace the belt .


Different engine....:D

ree 11-22-2006 03:11 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
One hour is very reasonable, considering they have to drain the coolant (not all the way, but lower than the coolant bottle and heater hoses), then remove the generator, and the tensioner assembly, they put every thiing back.

One hour is reasonable for the whole tensioner assembly. They wanted to charge me one hour just to replace the tensioner pulley.

f5fstop 11-22-2006 11:50 AM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ree
One hour is reasonable for the whole tensioner assembly. They wanted to charge me one hour just to replace the tensioner pulley.


Then, they are just doing the minimum of one-hour. Surprised they are even servicing only the pulley. But stranger things have been happening lately.:clapping:

ree 11-22-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
They're not. I am. I decided that it was worth the learning experience rather than paying a full hour of labor for them to do the job.

ree 11-27-2006 06:51 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
It took almost an hour just now to make my coffee, remove the pulley, run to the store and buy a new pulley and belt ($40), pour a new cup of coffee, go to the bathroom, install the new pulley and belt, and then cleanup. :rolleyes:

And Ken, there's a load of room to swap out the belt on the 3.8L in the GP. It was almost fun.

ratesguy 11-27-2006 11:32 PM

Re: Cost to swap out tensioner pully
 
KenP----- Take it back to the dealer and make them adjust the belts. I had the dealer change the belts on my daughters rx300 and they squealed on start-up. Took it back twice before they got it right, but they did get it right. No further charge-of course.:)


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