Hummer Forums by Elcova - I told you!! Something MUST be done

Page 1 of 2

Show 40 posts from this thread on one page

Hummer Forums by Elcova (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/index.php)

- General Off Topic (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11)

- - I told you!! Something MUST be done (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23234)

KenP	12-22-2006 05:50 PM

I told you!! Something MUST be done

Most popular names in England last year:
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch...ions/names.htm

Please note the following:
#23 Mohammed
#56 Muhammed
#70 Mohammad

It's just a matter of time before the radical parasites take over a nuclear country. And yes, it's started here. The liberals are going to kill us off with their policies.

Quote:

Last month Keith (Hakim Mohammad) Ellison of Minnesota became the first Muslim elected to serve in the Congress and shocked many Americans by declaring that he would take his oath of office by placing his hand on the Quran rather than the Bible. Can a true believer in the Islamic doctrine found in the Quran swear allegiance to our Constitution? Those who profess a sincere belief in Allah say "no!"

Quote:

Keith Ellison has been reported to be associated with an extreme Muslim sect that recognizes no law as superior to Sharia, the Islamic code, and that preaches no Muslim can swear allegiance to the US Constitution, something required of Congressmen. He is also associated with American Open University, a radical Islamic school [ interesting choice of a name don't you think?] whose founder has denounced the US system of democracy as antithetical to Islam, and announced that laws contrary to their faith are prohibited

Quote:

For those with eyes to see, the mask has long since fallen from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Even such stalwart Democrats as Senators Dick Durbin and Charles Schumer have come to recognize CAIR's "association with groups that are suspect," its "ties to terrorism" and its "intimate links with Hamas."

KenP	12-22-2006 05:55 PM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

His supporters are CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad and Chairman of the Board Parvez Ahmed.

Quote:

Ellison's election will certainly send a powerful message, as does the support of Ellison by the likes of Awad and Ahmed, though not the message that they note. Meet Nihad Awad:

? Nihad Awad publicly declared his enthusiasm for Hamas at Barry University in Florida in 1994: "I'm in support of Hamas movement more than the PLO."
? This same year, according to the Weekly Standard, when Mike Wallace of CBS's "60 Minutes" asked Awad if he supports the "military undertakings of Hamas," Awad stood up for the terrorist group and told him, "The United Nations Charter grants people who are under occupation [the right] to defend themselves against illegal occupation."
? In an August 19, 2006 interview on C-SPAN's Washington Journal, Awad rationalized suicide terrorism by suggesting it's really about fighting injustice. He refers to the writing of author Robert Pape on the subject: "He found out that it [suicide terrorism] has more to do with occupations and fighting injustice than religion. It really responds to the myth and the known notion now that has been used by several commentators and some politicians as a clich? because it sounds maybe dramatically well but factually it is not."
? Shortly after September 11, 2001, Awad and CAIR placed on their website a picture of the World Trade Center in flames and under it a call for donations. It read, "What you can do for the victims of the WTC and Pentagon attacks," and by clicking on "Donate to the NY/DC Emergency Relief Fund" one was unsuspectingly sent directly to the website of the Holy Land Foundation. A week later, the wording of the site was changed, as visitors to the site were directly told to "Donate through the Holy Land Foundation." The link was on CAIR's website until early December 2001, when the information mysteriously disappeared.
? On December 4, 2001, the reason for the disappearance was apparent, as the Holy Land Foundation's assets were blocked by the United States government for funneling money to Hamas. According to the White House website, "The U.S.-based Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development [provided] millions of dollars each year that [was] used by HAMAS."
? On Sept. 16, 2000, at a Washington rally sponsored by CAIR, AMC, and MPAC, Awad declared: "They [the Jews] have been saying 'next year to Jerusalem,' we say 'next year to all of Palestine!'"

Quote:

Awad is a former official of the Islamic Association of Palestine, which was a front group for Hamas. As one can infer from the items above, Awad and CAIR appear to act as voices of the "Wahhabi lobby" and as a front for supporters of Islamist terrorism. Below is a photo of Awad speaking on April 20, 2002 in Washington, D.C. on a stage bearing the flag of Hezbollah.

Quote:

And who is Parvez Ahmed? Ahmed was a prominent supporter of Sami Al-Arian, the convicted terrorist financier and head of the North American branch of the terrorist Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

K9sH3

12-24-2006 01:17 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

:popcorn:

f5fstop

12-24-2006 02:20 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

I agree, but from what I have seen there are just too many stupid people in this country to actually understand what is happening. Too many people believe Islam is a peaceful religion when it is not a peaceful religion. First Europe, then the Americas, then the world. If we don't wake up, in a few hundred years, Islam will be the only religion left.

-=Mac=-

12-24-2006 07:38 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Almost makes that war in Iraq sound worthwhile, doesn't it? The next time someone says "Cut & Run!", take the time to remind them of the price of freedom.

-Mac

KenP	12-24-2006 08:20 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop

First Europe, then the Americas, then the world. If we don't wake up, in a few hundred years, Islam will be the only religion left.

Industialized nation's families typically have a very low birth rate. In England you see about 1.5 children born to each couple. A typical Muslim family in England is having 5-6 children per couple. The religion now emphasizes having many children, whereas in the past, it didn't make that emphasis.

What do you think will happen?

KenP	12-24-2006 08:24 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

Almost makes that war in Iraq sound worthwhile, doesn't it? The next time someone says "Cut & Run!", take the time to remind them of the price of freedom.

-Mac

Take time to build GDamn walls and stop illegal immigration.

Take time out to PROFILE those visiting this country.

Take time out to PROFILE those using airlines... and buses... and...

Use Isael's methods... Oh wait... We can't. The liberals don't want us to protect ourselves.

RuggedH2

12-24-2006 08:54 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Time will tell.

[On Soapbox] If the radical Muslims have any of the success they seek, their motives will be clearer and more difficult for the libs in the media to look past. When they finally hit us hard enough, we will unite as a nation. We will find the national backbone we are searching for, and will burn the whole Islamic mother-f*cker down.

I wish we could take more preemptive action, but the liberals in our society will not allow it. They are sheep by nature. It has to be clear to them that their very lives are at stake, and at this point they do not believe it. [Off Soapbox]

That is all.

-=Mac=-

12-24-2006 09:11 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP

Luckily, Canada doesn't have as much illegal problems but otherwise, I agree wholeheartedly.

-Mac

f5fstop

12-24-2006 03:10 PM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

Luckily, Canada doesn't have as much illegal problems but otherwise, I agree wholeheartedly.

-Mac

Been to Toronto lately? In the past fifteen years, that city has gone from a friendly city to visit, to a city where no one speaks English, and gangs roam outside the Pantages theater.

KenP	12-24-2006 04:26 PM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Like after 911? Then we, as a Nation with our short attention spans, forget all about it.:rant:

I''m still ranting!!!

GLBLWARMR

12-24-2006 05:26 PM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP

Like after 911? Then we, as a Nation with our short attention spans, forget all about it.:rant:

I''m still ranting!!!

Ding, Ding, Ding. That is human nature. Once it is no longer a concern to their well being they forget about it or start bitchin about it. Then the next time something happens they will come together and unite against the enemy, then they will start bitching that enough was not done to prevent it, then they will start bitchin the war is costing to much, then they will say that its not my concern, then they will say what are we fighting for, then they will say are we still fighting, "OMG that was like so yesterday". Then the cycle will repeat exactly the same way once something else happens. OOOPPS I guess I am still ranting too!!!

-=Mac=-

12-25-2006 02:14 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop

Been to Toronto lately? In the past fifteen years, that city has gone from a friendly city to visit, to a city where no one speaks English, and gangs roam outside the Pantages theater.

I avoid Toronto like the plague... I've done so since I lived there in the early 80s. It was ugly then and it hasn't improved. Most 'real' Canadians look upon Toronto as a horrid aberration.

-Mac

KenP	12-25-2006 06:48 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

I avoid Toronto like the plague... I've done so since I lived there in the early 80s. It was ugly then and it hasn't improved. Most 'real' Canadians look upon Toronto as a horrid aberration.

-Mac

What about Quebec?:giggling: ;)

RuggedH2

12-25-2006 06:59 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP

Like after 911? Then we, as a Nation with our short attention spans, forget all about it.:rant:

I''m still ranting!!!

I agree completely.

[Back On Soapbox] The means necessary to properly deal with the spreading radical muslim influence would be drastic, severe, and utterly ruthless. We have the means available.

The population of our society is made up of a large percentage of weak willed, loud mouthed, crybabies. Some of these same people cried out for national defense when they believed we were threatened, then changed their beliefs when they no longer felt insecure.

Unfortunately, I believe the radical islamics will have to hit us HARD, Again, before most of these crybabies will come with support for a military solution. I also believe that our military solution must be ruthless.

When the Russians faced some of the same problems, (Terrorists kidnapping Russian officials and killing/beheading them) they discovered who did it, took the families of those responsible, used them to get to the perpetrators, and ended up killing the entire lot of them. Ruthless gets respect in the Muslim world. Half measures and politically correct approaches, gets more suicide bombers.

In the end it will be one way of life or the other, they laid out the stakes not us. We will eventually be forced to a crossroads, their religion has taught them that this is the way it will be, and that there is no other way.[End Soapbox]

-=Mac=-

12-25-2006 07:22 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenP

What about Quebec?:giggling: ;)

I lived in Montreal for a year in the late 80s... I was young, single, making decent money and Montreal had some lovely uninhibited women... My French wasn't great but I managed. My memories of Montreal are much more pleasant than my memories of Toronto.

-Mac

-=Mac=-

12-25-2006 07:28 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0313H3

The population of our society is made up of a large percentage of weak willed, loud mouthed, crybabies. Some of these same people cried out for national defense when they believed we were threatened, then changed their beliefs when they no longer felt insecure.

I couldn't agree more. Canada has the same problem... and the short attention span as well. As Islamofascism takes over more and more countries, eventually we will reach the point where the appeasers will realize they're walking a path to destruction of Western society. Let's hope they don't wake up too late.

-Mac

RuggedH2

12-25-2006 07:55 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Nothing should come as a surprise. The doctrine of the religion spells out Jihad against nonbelievers, it openly states that Islam must rule the world. It states that nowhere where Islam has been established, can ever be taken back by infidels (Israel). There can never be peace with Israel. It must be reclaimed. When Yasser Arafat made the deal with Israel he was attacked in the Palestinian media. He gave a speech to let his countrymen know that what he had done was just as the prophet Muhammad had done, temporarily concede to preserve what he had, until he could build his strength back to attack again.

Anyone who thinks these are "radical Muslim" ideas is mistaken. They are Muslim ideas. These people believe enough to blow themselves into pieces, if it will kill infidels.

They do not hide what they believe. Our media won't discuss the real issues with this religion. More is definitely to come.

I just wish it didn't require the deaths of so many Americans to motivate us to the necessary action. History really does repeat itself.

-=Mac=-

12-25-2006 08:12 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0313H3

History really does repeat itself.

Yup, until we learn it's lesson. By the way, Israel isn't the only infidel nation; all nations which aren't Islamic caliphates are infidel.

-Mac

RuggedH2

12-25-2006 08:29 AM

Re: I told you!! Something MUST be done

True, but it was Muslim, and now it is not. That is unacceptable according to the teachings of Islam. That is why the ongoing mess has dragged on for decades and will continue until it is reclaimed.

Osama has stated that America was targeted because non Islamic military forces are standing on Muslim ground. He was originally referring to our presence in Saudi Arabia. His motivation is further supported now.

Some Americans don't believe we are fighting "Al Qaeda" in Iraq. Even though the most targeted man there was the head of "Al Qaeda in Iraq" before we killed him.

The Iranians are also behind much of the Sunni - Shiite fighting within the population. While at the same time they are actively trying to develop nuclear weapons. Our newly elected Democrats are already discussing their exit strategies from the region. Only fools would consider this course of action with the information they have available to them. Our media isn't reporting what's real, but our intelligence agencies are.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:34 AM.

Page 1 of 2

Show 40 posts from this thread on one page