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Dave92270 02-16-2009 09:19 PM

magnum ammo suggestions please, thx
 
Despite firing a variety of firearms over the time (infrequently) I never actually owned one - finally got myself to gun dealer last week and purchased a brand spankin new S&W 686 Plus .357 Magnum (medium frame, "L"). I wanted something "relatively" small and 100% reliable, and she was a match... I'm picking her up in 8 days (CA 10-day waiting period ..); she's going to be my off-road/wilderness companion as well as home defender. I know that there are many knowledgeable and well-prepared Hummer owners around, and I need a bit of help - suggestions for ammo please... Primary use is self defense, short to medium range, with possible need for decent penetration as well (bg's taking cover behind pickup truck doors etc. although in such a scenario I'd probably try to withdraw myself from any further confrontation because of self defense questionability); no hunting. ...I hear good things about .357 Magnum Federal Personal Defense Handgun Cartridge, 125-Grain JHP Bullet, 1450 fps, they go for about $16 per 20 round box, thinking to stock up (if I can find them..local stores shelves are empty because people fear what that prick may come up with down the road...).

Thanks for suggestions!

oh thx barack clown for pointing me the right direction..

Easy Ed 02-16-2009 11:52 PM

Re: magnum ammo suggestions please, thx
 
http://www.policelink.com/products/p...hydra-shok-jhp

Dave92270 02-17-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Ed


thanks!

Easy Ed 02-17-2009 12:12 AM

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Yup. That is what I am using in my Beretta M9A1 along with with Crimson Trace laser. http://www.crimsontrace.com/ for home protection.

Dave92270 02-17-2009 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Ed
Yup. That is what I am using in my Beretta M9A1 along with with Crimson Trace laser. http://www.crimsontrace.com/ for home protection.


..I know the knock down power that it has, one round any where and the assaliant is on the floor. If you're going to do it right, do it right the first time.

perfect, exactly what I'm looking for

Easy Ed 02-17-2009 12:27 AM

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Less chance of hurting bystanders from over penetration of the bad guy or going through walls.......

For S&W http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Pro...9/Default.aspx

Mine with the Crimson Grips....


wpage 02-17-2009 12:43 AM

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Be aware that hollow point "cop killer" bullets are legal to sell. However illegal to possess in many states...
With the new administration new Federal laws will be coming:soapbox:

Dave92270 02-17-2009 12:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Ed
Less chance of hurting bystanders from over penetration of the bad guy or going through walls.......

For S&W http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Pro...9/Default.aspx

Mine with the Crimson Grips....



nice gun!

ouch..$270 for a laser sight..no I can live without. neighbor bought one of those for his wife (hamerless S&W .38 Special, small frame, don't know the model) , I tried that and the way its activated I couldn't find it comfortable. He has two 9mm semi's, Colt and S&W. I like the S&W more, had better hit ratio with as well... We fired some 3-4 magazines each thru those two last weekend..

Dave92270 02-17-2009 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wpage
Be aware that hollow point "cop killer" bullets are legal to sell. However illegal to possess in many states...
With the new administration new Federal laws will be coming:soapbox:

,..that's why the shelves are empty...
as far as penetration goes, law enforcement personnel wearing body armor/bullet-proof jackets should be probably more concerned about fmj rounds then hp's? HP ammo is legal in CA as far as I know; may change down the barack road, who knows. I'll stock up to make sure I won't run out.

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ 02-17-2009 09:41 AM

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For self protection in handgun I have carried 2 clips each with different type round as well as hae alternated in some kind of sequence where I know something is coming up whether I fire off inapropriate round our manually eject to get to rounds.

Be very cautious as to what you use in home if you hae wife or babies slepping in house. Go with heavy grain hollow point so it will not accidently penetrate walls. In a test with a FMJ 9mm it went through 3 rooms of walls before it hit a 2x4 stopping.

Just some things to think about.

TAZ

Dave92270 02-17-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
Be very cautious as to what you use in home if you hae wife or babies slepping in house. Go with heavy grain hollow point so it will not accidently penetrate walls. In a test with a FMJ 9mm it went through 3 rooms of walls before it hit a 2x4 stopping.

Just some things to think about.

TAZ


.... no I definitely wouldn't want to hit something what I didn't intend to.

That Federal Hydra-Shok JHP ammo which EasyEd mentioned earlier sounds about right and has great reviews; I'll buy some.

oh here is mine, stock photo


ordered 5 boxes of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok from Cabelas. thanks guys!
the only thing I dislike is that lock; you can see the lock hole right above the cylinder release slide..why? why the lock?

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ 02-18-2009 09:39 AM

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Dave Hydro's are the way to go. Keep in mind taking mass down is best achieved by large grain slow muzzle speed. The better knock down comes from subsonic bullet travel speed.

Hydro's are so deadly because inside the hollow point is a tougher metal sabot that as bullet strikes the hp does intended work softing target area but, sabot is forced into target deeper by it's intended design and the mass behing it that has not begun exspansion yet.

Hydro's are nasty baby's.

TAZ

NJ H2 02-18-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave92270

oh here is mine, stock photo



Oh .... an old fashioned wheel gun :D

KenP 02-18-2009 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wpage
With the new administration new Federal laws will be coming:soapbox:

Buy now, buy often.

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ 02-19-2009 12:02 AM

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Based on old laws done away with not to long ago Ken I was going to have register as an armoury due to the amount of rounds I have stored in my home.

As mentioned I have many weapons to deal with threats from many different distances plus larger amounts of ammo per caliber/type depending on how close the threat is or could get.

TAZ

Lean Machine 02-19-2009 01:32 AM

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Sorry to change the subject but it's related to the ammo topic. What would you guy's consider to be the best semi-automatic handgun for home protection. My wife likes her little .38 but I want a little something more for the house.

RubHer Yellow Ducky 02-19-2009 05:45 AM

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I like the Florida law...

My handgun is an 18 1/2 inch barrel 6 shot pump shotgun with a pistol grip...a little bigger then yours but so much more adaptable...

its just not fun having to wear a coat in summer to conceal it...


HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ 02-19-2009 05:49 AM

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First thing you have to figure out is how large a caliber she is willing to tolerate. Take her to a in door gun rental range and see what she can tolerate. Remember her hands or most ladies are smaller than men. You have to take all this into account. You can get most any caliber handgun in a size of grip to fit women. You can get a .410 revolver with a small grip. So try it out with rentals.

If it is for in home only a mossberg .410 shotgun is great.

TAZ


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lean Machine
Sorry to change the subject but it's related to the ammo topic. What would you guy's consider to be the best semi-automatic handgun for home protection. My wife likes her little .38 but I want a little something more for the house.


Dave92270 02-19-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky
I like the Florida law...

My handgun is an 18 1/2 inch barrel 6 shot pump shotgun with a pistol grip...a little bigger then yours but so much more adaptable...

its just not fun having to wear a coat in summer to conceal it...



nice! I like the pistol grip on yours....I'm probably going to buy one of those as well. wife will feel safer that way. neighbor has a variety of shotguns, mostly over/under but a nice pump action won't hurt to have at home..like to have her by the door ..just in case

Dave92270 02-19-2009 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ H2
Oh .... an old fashioned wheel gun :D

yes 7-rounds cylinder, and in magnum;)


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