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lx4life 09-07-2010 02:46 AM

Need some diff help!!
 
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I talk to jarek m a ton, but I am still having diffcult time getting the inner shaft out, i think I might have broken something cause that thing won't come out. I really dont want to bother Jarek anymore so thats why i am coming to you guys. I have been hitting the hell out of it, but not really applying upward pressure since i dont know how would accomplish it.:twak : There has to be somthign holding it in there maybe a clip or something. I have attached a picture of what i am talking about the cicrcle is what I am having problems with. Is the half shaft(black piece) two different pieces which one is suppose to come out or does all of of come out.

HUMTECH 09-07-2010 03:15 AM

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Trya prybar with outward pressure on the shaft and hit it straight in towards the diff with a big hammer. If it dont come out you will need to split the case and ry to pop the clip off he end of the shaft.

HUMTECH 09-07-2010 03:19 AM

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Hitting it straight back into the diff sometimes will center the retainer and allow it to pop out

lx4life 09-07-2010 03:24 AM

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How do I split the case? I am new to this but love learning new things when I can. Still kinda confused on the prybar thing where do i put teh pry bar to aplly the upward pressure plus be able to hit the shaft or am I suppose to hit the prybar I swear I am getting stupid by the minute. :confused: :confused:

HUMTECH 09-07-2010 03:27 AM

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Pry between the mount and the axle flange.

lx4life 09-07-2010 03:34 AM

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ok gotcha! I really think its stuck in there, but I will try again tomorrow. does it need to be unbolted from the diff. before I hit

HUMTECH 09-07-2010 03:38 AM

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Nope, it has a retaining ring that seats in a groove on the end. If that ring expands makes it very difficult to get out

lx4life 09-08-2010 03:43 AM

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Well i tried again today I think I am going to break something, I really need to see a breakdown instruction or something that hitting the shaft with a 8lbs hammer is kinda scaring me cause I really think I am going to break something. I am probably going to get a slide hammer so it even, I have heard you have to buy new rings, man this doesn't make since I would think there would be a inspection hole to where we can gain acesss to the pin in the spider or retaining clip.:twak: :raar:

jarek m 09-08-2010 04:15 AM

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At the end of the shaft there is a spring that prevents the shaft from sliding out, you need to apply outward pressure on the shaft to get the spring inside the diff to align and then give it a hit with a 2.5er. Some springs don't come out in one piece there for hawing a new set handy is nice, my came right out, looks like yours are a little more stubborn that's all

This is a different application but the end of the spline looks same #1.

jarek m 09-08-2010 04:29 AM

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#30:beerchug:


lx4life 09-08-2010 02:41 PM

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YOU ARE THE MAN JAREK I WAS REALLY TRYING NOT TO BOTHER YOU!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH, its just that these things are so expensive to replace if I break it and I really don't want to go to the stealership and have them do it, cause I could use that money for aftermarket parts you know what I mean. This iste is one of the best around, I have to work until tomorrow afternoon(32hr work day) so i will try again tomorrow after work :beerchug:

jarek m 09-08-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lx4life
YOU ARE THE MAN JAREK I WAS REALLY TRYING NOT TO BOTHER YOU!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH, its just that these things are so expensive to replace if I break it and I really don't want to go to the stealership and have them do it, cause I could use that money for aftermarket parts you know what I mean. This iste is one of the best around, I have to work until tomorrow afternoon(32hr work day) so i will try again tomorrow after work :beerchug:



It's no bother at all.

twr 09-08-2010 05:47 PM

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hi this should help you out with the front diff.





1 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft
2 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Retaining Ring
3 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Seal
4 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Bearing
5 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Housing
6 - Front Drive Axle Housing Bracket Bushing
7 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Housing Bolt
8 - Front Differential Carrier Case Bolt
9 - Front Differential Carrier Case Half
10 - Front Differential Bearing Adjuster Lock Pin
11 - Front Differential Bearing Adjuster Nut and Sleeve
12 - Front Differential Case Side Bearing Cup
13 - Front Differential Case Side Bearing
14 - Front Differential Ring Gear Bolt
15 - Front Differential Pinion Gear Shaft
16 - Front Differential Case
17 - Differential Pinion Gear Shaft Lock Bolt
18 - Differential Pinion Gear Thrust Washer
19 - Differential Pinion Gear
20 - Differential Side Gear Thrust Washer
21 - Differential Side Gear
22 - Front Differential Side Gear Spacer
23 - Differential Pinion Gear Thrust Washer
24 - Differential Pinion Gear
25 - Front Differential Side Gear Spacer
26 - Differential Side Gear
27 - Differential Side Gear Thrust Washer
28 - Front Differential Ring Gear
29 - Front Differential Case Side Bearing
30 - Front Differential Side Gear Bearing Cup
31 - Front Differential Case Half Lock Pin
32 - Front Differential Case Half Lock Pin
33 - Front Differential Carrier Case Half
34 - Front Differential Carrier Bushing
35 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Gear
36 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Gear Inner Bearing Shim
37 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Inner Bearing
38 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Inner Bearing Cup
39 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Gear Bearing Spacer
40 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Gear Outer Bearing Cup
41 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Gear Outer Bearing
42 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Bearing Gear Oil Seal
43 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Bearing Gear Yoke
44 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Bearing Gear Yoke Washer
45 - Front Differential Drive Pinion Bearing Gear Yoke Nut
46 - Front Differential Carrier Oil Drain Plug Washer
47 - Front Differential Carrier Oil Drain Plug
48 - Front Differential Carrier Oil Fill Plug Washer
49 - Front Differential Carrier Oil Fill Plug
50 - Front Differential Carrier Hole Plug
51 - Front Differential Bearing Adjuster and O-Ring Seal
52 - Front Differential Bearing Adjuster Nut Lock
53 - Bolt
54 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Bearing
55 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Bearing
56 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft Retaining Ring
57 - Front Drive Axle Inner Shaft

guruerror 09-08-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by twr
hi this should help you out with the front diff.


TWR: Did you pull that image from the EPC? If so, what version do you have?
You can find out by clicking Help then About...my build date is 23Jul2007 11:05 124

twr 09-08-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by guruerror
TWR: Did you pull that image from the EPC? If so, what version do you have?
You can find out by clicking Help then About...my build date is 23Jul2007 11:05 124


hi guruerror, it came from Alldata. Its for a 2008 but the diffs are the same but the gear ratio is 410 to 1 in 2007 and down trucks and my 2008 is 373 to 1 do you need a picture of something?

guruerror 09-09-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by twr
hi guruerror, it came from Alldata. Its for a 2008 but the diffs are the same but the gear ratio is 410 to 1 in 2007 and down trucks and my 2008 is 373 to 1 do you need a picture of something?

No thanks...I've got a copy of the GM EPC; I'm just always on the look out for an updated version.

What version of AllData are you running? I had a copy of AllData before I snagged the EPC...I can see from your post that the image quality of their diagrams has improved dramatically. The version I had was older and many of the pictures looked almost hand-drawn.

Here's the same diagram from the EPC, they're almost identical:

twr 09-09-2010 04:06 PM

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Hi what is EPC?

HumminNBoatin' 09-09-2010 04:08 PM

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I used a slide hammer to get mine out. However keep in mind if you break that retainer spring you need to split the case to get the broken pieces out. I broke the one on the long shaft when installing my front locker.

guruerror 09-09-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by twr
Hi what is EPC?

Electronic Parts Catalog

It's the Snap-On/Proview software that GM dealers use in their Parts Departments.

twr 09-09-2010 04:59 PM

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Hi is epc a one time buy or a yearly fee?


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