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STL Zombie Hunter 03-11-2013 01:44 PM

16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
I finally got my HMMWV 37 x 12.50 R16.5 tires and wheels put on my H2. Tires are Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Dura wall tires w/ puncture resistant sidewalls. Wheels are 24 bolt H1 military wheels w/ new style run flats installed.

These beasts weighed 172lbs per wheel. I also have a 5th one that I am going to mount on my rear swing arm tire carrier once I get it put on.

I had 37 x 13.5 R18 Mickey Thompson on here for a few years. These new tires ride much smoother & turn easier.

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iwillnc 03-11-2013 10:20 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
It's so bad ass, but I am so divided right now.

I want, but man, 172lbs, the advantage you gain from having $400 set of almost new 37s you lose in the amount of money you spend on replacing front end parts.
I'mma thinkin maybe I'll get both these, and some new stockers

STL Zombie Hunter 03-12-2013 01:39 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
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Originally Posted by iwillnc
It's so bad ass, but I am so divided right now.

I want, but man, 172lbs, the advantage you gain from having $400 set of almost new 37s you lose in the amount of money you spend on replacing front end parts.
I'mma thinkin maybe I'll get both these, and some new stockers


Thanks man! I get a lot of looks in it.Live for the NOW... go for it! I unfortunately don't have my stock rims from the PO. My 37 x 13.50 R18s weren't too much lighter than what I have now and haven't had any front end issues in the few years I've owned it.
But, I would like to upgrade to heavy duty tie rod ends (Cognito mabye?).

I say go for it as I see the 100% new quantities dwindling rapidly.

Egan 03-12-2013 02:56 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
They look great, but I don't think I could lift the spare onto the swingarm. :o

I should weight one of my stock rims+35's to see how much of a difference it really is.

STL Zombie Hunter 03-12-2013 06:01 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
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Originally Posted by Egan
I should weight one of my stock rims+35's to see how much of a difference it really is.


I'm curious as to the weight also.
If putting onto a rear carrier, you'll definitely need an extra set of hands. My last 37" spare WAS on the cargo rack. Notice there is NO spare on there now. That would probably cave my roof in! :giggling:

Egan 03-12-2013 08:25 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
Is there anything else needed to fit these besides a mild lift? Any kind of spacer or adapter needed?

STL Zombie Hunter 03-12-2013 09:02 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Egan
Is there anything else needed to fit these besides a mild lift? Any kind of spacer or adapter needed?


My front end was lifted from the previous owner via torsion bars (maybe an 1" - 1.5" or so). Also, if using the HMMWV wheels, you will need a solid 2" Billet aluminum spacer (mybilletadapters.com) -Richard is who I used and got them to me pretty quick. High quality!

Egan 03-12-2013 09:12 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STL Zombie Hunter
My front end was lifted from the previous owner via torsion bars (maybe an 1" - 1.5" or so). Also, if using the HMMWV wheels, you will need a solid 2" Billet aluminum spacer (mybilletadapters.com) -Richard is who I used and got them to me pretty quick. High quality!


Are these the ones?

http://billetwheeladapters.com/wheel...5-2-thick.html

Is the spacer just so the wheel will clear the brakes and not rub on the suspension/frame?

STL Zombie Hunter 03-12-2013 09:25 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
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Originally Posted by Egan
Are these the ones?


Is the spacer just so the wheel will clear the brakes and not rub on the suspension/frame?


That be them! I paid $200 including shipping from the other guy I mentioned.

The adapters are to correct the offset. The HMMWV are high offset hubs & the H2 is a low offset. The 2" corrects the backspacing to allow clearance for the calipers and to make the wheels sit flush with the body (not tucked inside fenderwells).

Are you going to get a set?? :beerchug:

Egan 03-12-2013 09:44 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
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Originally Posted by STL Zombie Hunter
That be them! I paid $200 including shipping from the other guy I mentioned.

The adapters are to correct the offset. The HMMWV are high offset hubs & the H2 is a low offset. The 2" corrects the backspacing to allow clearance for the calipers and to make the wheels sit flush with the body (not tucked inside fenderwells).

Are you going to get a set?? :beerchug:


I'm seriously thinking about it. I was going to do the Cognito UCA's & torsion bars to try and fit 37's anyway. This solution is cheaper and I think it looks better than aftermarket wheels or painted stockers.

No need for beadlocks, correct? Did you have to get the wheels balanced?

STL Zombie Hunter 03-12-2013 10:27 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
These came mounted & balanced w/ runflats already installed in them. The bead locks are part of the 2 piece wheel. I haven't tried taking them off yet due to I'm afraid of losing air, plus I've only had these on a week now & been snowing or raining since then.
I'm actually at a tire shop as we speak having them check out the balance on one of my rear tires. Slight vibrations above 60mph.

My plans are to paint the wheels with Line-X to match my roof rack, ladder & front bumper.

LoJac963 03-12-2013 11:43 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
I saw them online, they are absolutely awesome. How much did you pay for the new set with tires shipped?

Also I'm worried about the o-ring they mention going bad. I'm assuming its between both halves of the rim to hold the air??

STL Zombie Hunter 03-13-2013 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LoJac963
I saw them online, they are absolutely awesome. How much did you pay for the new set with tires shipped?

Also I'm worried about the o-ring they mention going bad. I'm assuming its between both halves of the rim to hold the air??


I paid $975 for 5 wheels & tires all 100% new. Already mounted & balanced w/ run flats installed. Freight shipping from WI to St. Louis was $120 on 1 pallet (dock delivery).

I've only had these on for a week now so I haven't had a chance to find out more about them. I know the old style 8 & 12 bolt wheels had o-ring issues but haven't heard anything about the 24 bolt.

I recommend them!

Egan 03-13-2013 03:56 AM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
Do you have a link to where you bought them from?

I did some research earlier today and it looked like the o-ring problem was from tire shops incorrectly mounting tires, so it may be something to watch out for when you get to your next set.

LoJac963 03-13-2013 04:38 AM

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I did read the 24 bolt offset wheels didn't have as many issues with the o-rings.

Hmm interesting indeed. $1k for wheels (awesome ones at that) is not bad at all. I think my BFG's are the stockers because they're starting to get cracked everywhere on the tread so it may be time for new ones soon.

STL Zombie Hunter 03-13-2013 01:50 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
The company is Feltz Auto & Tire. They have a regular tire shop, but also a huge supply of these HMMWV wheels & tires. They said they have a contract with the Gov't regarding purchasing surplus.
They don't have a website but do list stuff occasionally on Ebay. It's a rather small shop.
Dustin is the guy I used. His cell # is (715) 305-3853 and they also accept Paypal. After I paid, my shipment was ready the next day to ship out. He even sent me pics of the wheels on the pallet per my request.

LoJac963 03-14-2013 12:59 AM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
Here's my thinking, I've been looking around and can't find much in regards to other tires in the same size. That being said it seems the only decently priced tire for these rims would be the military surplus stuff. However what happens when these start to dwindle??

Any thoughts on finding tires in the long term?

STL Zombie Hunter 03-14-2013 04:00 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
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Originally Posted by LoJac963
Here's my thinking, I've been looking around and can't find much in regards to other tires in the same size. That being said it seems the only decently priced tire for these rims would be the military surplus stuff. However what happens when these start to dwindle??

Any thoughts on finding tires in the long term?


There's always Ebay. Or if you hate money, tirerack.com has them for $675 per tire for the same thing.

I have a feeling there will always be someone selling these Goodyear MT/R tires in atleast a 95% or better tread for quite some time.

guruerror 03-15-2013 02:24 AM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
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Originally Posted by STL Zombie Hunter
I'm curious as to the weight also.
If putting onto a rear carrier, you'll definitely need an extra set of hands. My last 37" spare WAS on the cargo rack. Notice there is NO spare on there now. That would probably cave my roof in! :giggling:

I'm pretty sure that my 37x12.5 BFG MTs on stock rims weighed in at 122 lbs., so the stock ATs should be less...prolly like 115 or so.

STL Zombie Hunter 03-15-2013 04:49 PM

Re: 16.5" H1 HMMWV wheels installed
 
I talked to Dustin @ Feltz tire and mentioned to him the interest in his HMMWV 24 bolt wheels on this site. He said to mention me (Michael) & the Hummer forum and he said he will try to hook you up however he can.


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