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PARAGON 12-07-2005 09:18 PM

DETROIT, Dec 7 (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. <GM.N> said on Wednesday it was in discussions with billionaire investor Kirk Kerkorian's Tracinda Corp. for a seat on its board of directors.

GM spokeswoman Toni Simonetti said the company had no further comment.

Analysts have said the likely candidate for a seat on GM's board would be Jerome York, the former chief financial officer at Chrysler Corp., now a unit of DaimlerChrysler AG.

Tracinda has spent $1.7 billion since April to buy 56 million shares of GM stock, about 9.9 percent of the total stock available.

Tracinda declined to comment.

GM's Chief Executive Rick Wagoner has been under mounting pressure as the world's largest automaker grapples with high labor and commodities costs, loss of U.S. market share to foreign rivals and slumping sales of large sport utility vehicles -- its longtime profit generator.

GM has lost nearly $4 billion this year, while its shares have lost more than 45 percent of their value amid wide speculation that Kerkorian would ask for a seat on the automaker's board.

York is a veteran of large-scale turnaround efforts at Chrysler and IBM, where as chief financial officer he led a rigorous cost-cutting effort.

If Kerkorian gets representation, GM will have an extremely vocal shareholder, T. Rowe Price analyst Brian Ropp said.

"Kerkorian will focus on what is best for GM's shareholders, which can conflict with GM bondholders, GMAC bondholders, and the UAW," Ropp said, referring to the United Auto Workers Union.

"It will make things very interesting."

PARAGON 12-07-2005 09:18 PM

DETROIT, Dec 7 (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. <GM.N> said on Wednesday it was in discussions with billionaire investor Kirk Kerkorian's Tracinda Corp. for a seat on its board of directors.

GM spokeswoman Toni Simonetti said the company had no further comment.

Analysts have said the likely candidate for a seat on GM's board would be Jerome York, the former chief financial officer at Chrysler Corp., now a unit of DaimlerChrysler AG.

Tracinda has spent $1.7 billion since April to buy 56 million shares of GM stock, about 9.9 percent of the total stock available.

Tracinda declined to comment.

GM's Chief Executive Rick Wagoner has been under mounting pressure as the world's largest automaker grapples with high labor and commodities costs, loss of U.S. market share to foreign rivals and slumping sales of large sport utility vehicles -- its longtime profit generator.

GM has lost nearly $4 billion this year, while its shares have lost more than 45 percent of their value amid wide speculation that Kerkorian would ask for a seat on the automaker's board.

York is a veteran of large-scale turnaround efforts at Chrysler and IBM, where as chief financial officer he led a rigorous cost-cutting effort.

If Kerkorian gets representation, GM will have an extremely vocal shareholder, T. Rowe Price analyst Brian Ropp said.

"Kerkorian will focus on what is best for GM's shareholders, which can conflict with GM bondholders, GMAC bondholders, and the UAW," Ropp said, referring to the United Auto Workers Union.

"It will make things very interesting."

Dan 12-07-2005 09:25 PM

Saw that coming...

MIZZOU H2 12-07-2005 09:44 PM

i was thinking about buying some GM stock.... what do you guys think? is it cheap enough?

PARAGON 12-07-2005 09:49 PM

Nope, hasn't hit bottom yet.

MIZZOU H2 12-07-2005 11:20 PM

what do you think bottom is??

PARAGON 12-08-2005 12:19 AM

I don't have a price in mind. I am thinking some things are going to happen with the union, some more cuts will happen, and if Kerkorian gets on board it will all get in the light. I am thinking that will be driving it down some more.

h2co-pilot 12-08-2005 01:21 AM

Okay, this is priceless...You know I love you guys so I have to tell you -

I got excited because I thought Kerkorian was DeLorean and they were coming
up with a concept Hummer.

Edit: Who would anyone name their child Kirk Kerkorian anyway?

timgco 12-08-2005 01:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Okay, this is priceless...You know I love you guys so I have to tell you -

I got excited because I thought Kerkorian was DeLorean and they were coming
up with a concept Hummer.

Edit: Who would anyone name their child Kirk Kerkorian anyway? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dr. Kavorkian?

Kellen 12-08-2005 03:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Who would anyone name their child Kirk Kerkorian anyway? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or name their kid "Alec" when they know everyone is going to spell it "Alex".

ckhagman 12-08-2005 11:21 AM

Didn't something already happen with the Union. I know they lost 4 billion or so while they still had over 20bil in cash but a couple months ago I heard that GM got the union to give up over 3bil towards health care costs. But then again that is what the media said and everyone knows the media hates the 2 domestic automakers.

What I find funny about the UAW is that they were crying over having to pay a portion of healthcare costs. Wow that suck where have I heard that before. Oh yeah, most people without a union job already have to do that.

Kellen 12-08-2005 01:59 PM

Sorry Alex.

KenP 12-08-2005 02:04 PM

GM needs something. Heck, the MGM could cover the costs of purchase.

BlueTJCO 12-08-2005 02:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Connie_Chung:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Who would anyone name their child Kirk Kerkorian anyway? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or name their kid "Alec" when they know everyone is going to spell it "Alex". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMFAO
Now that was kinda funny Alec........

Kellen 12-08-2005 02:21 PM

Shut it Moonbeam.

BlueTJCO 12-08-2005 03:13 PM

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Kellen 12-08-2005 03:16 PM

Nice, Moonunit.

KenP 12-08-2005 04:03 PM

Great one Moonie!

CO Hummer 12-08-2005 05:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
WTF is a MoonCricket anyway? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I recall correctly it means "meat spin" in Swahili.

h2co-pilot 12-08-2005 06:34 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
WTF is a MoonCricket anyway? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I recall correctly it means "meat spin" in Swahili. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



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