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Mikestang 10-18-2005 02:59 PM

I am interested in buying a H3 when my current Mach1 Mustang is paid for.

this is going to happen in about 2 years but for now I am following the H3 to see how things work out with them

One thing that bothers is that I feel 200 hp is just not going to do it for me

Is there any talk of an engine upgrade ( I am not interested in modding for more power) I would love to see a turbo diesel option.


Any rumours ???

Thanks

Mike

http:\\home.nycap.rr.com\crazyhorse

Mikestang 10-18-2005 02:59 PM

I am interested in buying a H3 when my current Mach1 Mustang is paid for.

this is going to happen in about 2 years but for now I am following the H3 to see how things work out with them

One thing that bothers is that I feel 200 hp is just not going to do it for me

Is there any talk of an engine upgrade ( I am not interested in modding for more power) I would love to see a turbo diesel option.


Any rumours ???

Thanks

Mike

http:\\home.nycap.rr.com\crazyhorse

psywzrd 10-18-2005 05:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikestang:
I am interested in buying a H3 when my current Mach1 Mustang is paid for.

this is going to happen in about 2 years but for now I am following the H3 to see how things work out with them

One thing that bothers is that I feel 200 hp is just not going to do it for me

Is there any talk of an engine upgrade ( I am not interested in modding for more power) I would love to see a turbo diesel option.


Any rumours ???

Thanks

Mike

http:\\home.nycap.rr.com\crazyhorse </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're in luck - the H3 already has 10% more horsepower than you mentioned (220) so you should be good to go!!! Seriously though, there are a bunch of people on here who know much more than me about this stuff so hopefully someone will chime in. I've seen a bunch of rumored power increases but I don't think I've seen anything "official" from GM yet. The current engine is definitely good enough for me but I certainly wouldn't turn down a bigger engine with the same (or better?) gas mileage.

Surferjo 10-18-2005 06:47 PM

07 will have 245hp.

Turbo Disel for 08 (that one is not confirmed)

f5fstop 10-18-2005 07:26 PM

sounds about right, but no SAE certified, yet.

Mikestang 10-18-2005 08:18 PM

Thanks
245 sounds like it will get out of its way atleast I want to get a auto so the more power the better

I would like the TD option for longevity this will be my primary driver and I want to get something I can mile the crap out of.


lol the mustang is 3 years old and only has 21k on it 4k this year and 1500 miles of that was trips

f5fstop 10-18-2005 09:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikestang:
Thanks
245 sounds like it will get out of its way atleast I want to get a auto so the more power the better

I would like the TD option for longevity this will be my primary driver and I want to get something I can mile the crap out of.


lol the mustang is 3 years old and only has 21k on it 4k this year and 1500 miles of that was trips </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The current 220 hp will get out of its own way. The underpower of the existing model is greatly exaggerated; when one considers this is an off-road capable SUV; not a blown LS1 Vette. Yes there are faster SUVs on the market, but not many that are as off-road capable from the factory, in this price range.

Curious, what is the TD option?

Mikestang 10-18-2005 11:58 PM

TD is short for Turbo Desiel


I realize its not a corvette and that it has off road capibilities I just want more engine

This is going to be my first auto in years.

f5fstop 10-19-2005 07:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikestang:
TD is short for Turbo Desiel


I realize its not a corvette and that it has off road capibilities I just want more engine

This is going to be my first auto in years. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

TD...Maybe, maybe not.

canucksnaphook 10-19-2005 09:47 AM

Fstop....come on spill the beans about a diesel !! I want one a "TD" but would prefer my H3 sooner than later. I KNOW you have test driven one...out with it !

C.

Codiac 10-19-2005 10:03 AM

Don't think I've seen this on here yet...Motor Trend makes you watch some ad's if your not registered. Pics of the 245hp 3.7 I-5 in a H3 Mule testing in Death Valley, also talk of an Alpha version by 2008-9

Motor Trend Spy Report

H3-SHERIFF 10-19-2005 12:02 PM

Hey Mikestang- I sold my stang with alot of mods so i could get an H3 and I have not been disappointed yet.

evomind 10-19-2005 12:51 PM

as far as power goes, when offroading i think the h3's only real shortcoming was being down on power a bit...climbing steep hills, etc...
btw....ur not really going to notice 20hp in a 5k pound vehicle.
im going to wait till after sema and look into a s/c...

1COOLH3 10-19-2005 06:40 PM

I was at Hummer Happening in Michigan and there was some "off the record" talk of a small V8.

I also had a conversation with a GM engineer and he didn't know of any specifics but he said they have a couple V8's that would fit nicely.

This would be more likely than a Turbo Deisel because deisels just are not popular in the US because of the noise, smell and the fact that deisel fuel is more expensive than gas right now.

Just my 2 cents worth.

bparker 10-19-2005 07:36 PM

I disagree, this this climbs like a Mt Goat with the low geared tranny and 4.56s in the axels. I think if it will stick to it then it will climb it. Only thing I have worried about so far is rolling it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by evomind:
as far as power goes, when offroading i think the h3's only real shortcoming was being down on power a bit...climbing steep hills, etc...
btw....ur not really going to notice 20hp in a 5k pound vehicle.
im going to wait till after sema and look into a s/c... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DDWH 10-19-2005 07:47 PM

What about doing this kit? Claims 29hp gain.

http://www.stallioncustoms.com/sch3perkit.html

f5fstop 10-19-2005 08:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
I was at Hummer Happening in Michigan and there was some "off the record" talk of a small V8.

I also had a conversation with a GM engineer and he didn't know of any specifics but he said they have a couple V8's that would fit nicely.

This would be more likely than a Turbo Deisel because deisels just are not popular in the US because of the noise, smell and the fact that deisel fuel is more expensive than gas right now.

Just my 2 cents worth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As a matter of fact, there is one V8 that will fit, but some modifications are required.
I know what engine will be released in '07, I know the engine combinations for '08, and not one is a TD diesel. Can't say what they are, but I will say many are very very close. (GM could decide to go with a TD diesel tomorrow if they wanted too.)
The extra 20 that might be in a new engine, is noticeable, but in my opinion, not enough for me to sell and purchase a new one, and does not make me sorry for not waiting.
The existing engine is fine for on and off road. How fast can you really traverse slickrock?

Mikestang 10-19-2005 08:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3-SHERIFF:
Hey Mikestang- I sold my stang with alot of mods so i could get an H3 and I have not been disappointed yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Sorry just cant part with this one I went thru HELL to get it.

sold other stang waited 6 months found this one
after the dealer could not tell me if i was even getting the car i ordered


Take a look at it
httP:\\home.nycap.rr.com\crazyhorse

there is only a hand full in the area I actully dont drive it much. I bought it becuase I wanted a car I could keep till I die

The H3 is going to be a daily driver hopfully with a 15 year life span.

evomind 10-20-2005 04:07 PM

i mod cars as a serious hobby....
what v8 might fit? i ask because im not at all familiar with gms line except the c6's.
it would not be that big a deal to put the v8 in myself as long as i dont have to make my own ecu adapters etc....very easy if the engine pretty much drops in, hook up the ecu and away u go...

evomind 10-20-2005 04:08 PM

i mean the ecu used for the v8 engine...


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