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Klaus 01-19-2006 07:13 PM

Uh oh!

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6028701.html

Federal prosecutors preparing to defend a controversial Internet pornography law in court have asked Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and America Online to hand over millions of search records--a request that Google is adamantly denying.

Klaus 01-19-2006 07:13 PM

Uh oh!

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6028701.html

Federal prosecutors preparing to defend a controversial Internet pornography law in court have asked Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and America Online to hand over millions of search records--a request that Google is adamantly denying.

DRTYFN 01-19-2006 07:25 PM

Ruh roh... Hear that? Hummerman is beating his PC with a sledge hammer right now.

ShaggyX 01-19-2006 07:40 PM

I guess I will be going away for a while. Its been nice knowing you guys.

NEOCON1 01-20-2006 01:08 AM

dont sweat it shaggy i will be goin too

Lucifer 01-20-2006 04:34 AM

I justed duped NEOCON1's ip address so no worries here. Man with all my illegal sh!t you'll never see the light of day again.

h2co-pilot 01-20-2006 11:23 AM

It is specifically for people that search for child pornpgraphy. Which is a disgusting crime. However, I applaud Google for standing up and fighting the subpeona. Yahoo, AOL and other search engines willingly gave up their clients information/ email addresses. Google will end up losing because it is evidence of a crime, but at least they are standing up to the subpeona.

What would the Feds subpeona next? Marijuana searches? Would there be a fight for free search? In light of recent developments regarding e-law, there will be no more anarchy on the web. So how will they enforce it internationally? To what lengths will be gone to protect and/or prosecute our information? This will be about much more than pr0n searches.

New territory- it will be interesting to say the least.

I hope that goatse man is of age.

Sewie 01-20-2006 03:36 PM

Actually, COPA has nothing to do with child pornography. It has to do with the ability of a minor to access pornography (whether accidental or intentional) on the web.

Text of COPA

Lucifer 01-20-2006 07:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
It is specifically for people that search for child pornpgraphy. Which is a disgusting crime. However, I applaud Google for standing up and fighting the subpeona. Yahoo, AOL and other search engines willingly gave up their clients information/ email addresses. Google will end up losing because it is evidence of a crime, but at least they are standing up to the subpeona.

What would the Feds subpeona next? Marijuana searches? Would there be a fight for free search? In light of recent developments regarding e-law, there will be no more anarchy on the web. So how will they enforce it internationally? To what lengths will be gone to protect and/or prosecute our information? This will be about much more than pr0n searches.

New territory- it will be interesting to say the least.

I hope that goatse man is of age. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only request was for search terms, and the sites that came up. There is no client usernames, addresses, or any information that could affect the end user.

h2co-pilot 01-20-2006 08:53 PM

The way I heard it on the news today was they were asking for search records related to child pornography. ie: naked child, child porn....

Then they were going to use that information to eventually gather the emails and/or IP's of those searchers. Personal information can and would be gathered if the government fells it necessary.

There is another case in PA involving COPA and the Bush Admin.. In which it involves access available to minors.

HummBebe 01-20-2006 08:58 PM

I heard on the news this morning that Yahoo and MSN have already agreed and that Google is fighting???

Sewie 01-20-2006 09:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
The way I heard it on the news today was they were asking for search records related to child pornography. ie: naked child, child porn....

Then they were going to use that information to eventually gather the emails and/or IP's of those searchers. Personal information can and would be gathered if the government fells it necessary.

There is another case in PA involving COPA and the Bush Admin.. In which it involves access available to minors. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think its the same case. The law was shot down by the Supreme Court and the Bush administration is trying to bring it back.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> From the SJ Mercury News:
The move is part of a government effort to revive an Internet child protection law struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court. The law was meant to punish online pornography sites that make their content accessible to minors. The government contends it needs the Google data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches.
In court papers filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Justice Department lawyers revealed that Google has refused to comply with a subpoena issued last year for the records, which include a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sure the government will misuse whatever info they get. Anyways, good for Google. A little sad the others rolled over so easily.


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