Newbie- I'm not committed to XM, but that seems to be the trend, and everything else seems to designed for XM.
Ok- I've doing some more research. The Eclipse is expensive as chit, $2199. The pioneer is $1199. I found a guy on Ebay who sells the Eclipse for $1350, but it looks shady(the original warranties don't apply). You can't even use the DVD while driving. I can't think of any time I've sat in the car when it was not moving and watched a whole movie. The Eclipse does lower your music and give you directions, I like that.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5780940714