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Old 08-17-2005, 03:13 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FROGGY69ER:
No Paragon, not well put. You must have supported Howard Dean, because if somenoe disagrees with you, just attack him. Sorry I did not list every state where seat belt use is mandatory. I wouldn't want to break the law. Are you kidding me? That is your response? Personal freedom and responsability go hand in hand, and it is something that is always hard to address legally. We constantly walk the line between legislating away personal freedom in order to protect "Joe public."We see this type of legislation everywere,ie. smoking, driving, drinking, speech, etc, and I am not saying it is a bad thing, but it is certanly not the litmus test for every argument. Lets be honest, the States were pressured into legislating seat belt laws, just like they where forced into lowering speed limits years ago. No seat belt law, loose highway funds! So if and when the laws are relaxed, like speed limits, what will your great argument be then. It is amazing to me, that the same people that have to defend there car buying decisions to the ill-informed are so quick to slam others when they think differently.

As far as his argument against wearing his seat belt, who cares. I don't always wear mine, and I don't have to give you a reason. It is my decision, and if I get a ticket, I will pay it and move on.

Now, I am sure all the "tuff guy" responses will start flying now, so I will ask all of you to grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>"Tuff guy??????"

Personal attack???? Even funnier? What does Howard Dean have anything to do with this? Exactly where did I say that "breaking the law" was the "litmus test" for the argument. The fact is, though, that you ARE breaking the law just the same as if you are driving your vehicle while over the legal limit for blood alchohol content. Another fact is that it is stupid and not only affects YOU as the driver but affects other drivers on the road because it can cause you to not maintain control of your vehicle. If you want to be stupid, fine. People are stupid every day. You are breaking the law and are being stupid with your own life, but are endangering the lives of others also, whether they are passengers or not. All because of a simple seat belt.

Where do you draw the line on personal rights? Is your personal right to drive while intoxicated beyond the legal limit not infringing too far? I know quite well that I have very little impairment past the legal BAC limit, but the law is the law. You see, some people ARE too dumb to know what's for their own good. Some laws that infringe on one's purported peronal rights is for the greater good.

As far as his argument about wearing a seat belt. Well, sport, he's the one posting the dumb crap here. If someone doesn't want a response, then either post something else or don't post anything at all.
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