I had the muds on my last ride and had 2 different punctures,,I liked the muds except for the spacing of the lugs. I was able to get them fixed but air wizzin out of a tire is a sick feeling. I have the Xtremes now, Very meaty and work great in snow and the limited muddin Ive done. Im real happy with them but for wheelin go with the muds.. See ya
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