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Old 08-11-2006, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: H3 VS new Rubicon Wrangler......

They're closely matched with slightly different advantages. Offroad, comparing the manual trannys, the JK's 6-spd has better low range and overdrive, but in the automatics, the H3 has better gearing overall.

JK features that the H3 lacks:

- convertible soft or hardtop
- removable doors w/ short door option
- fold-down windshield
- front e-locker
- elec sway-bar disconnect

H3 features the JK lacks:

- leather
- rear side curtain air bags
- full-time AWD

Advantages over the '07 H3:

Better Torque/Weight ratio (at higher RPMs)
Higher (slightly better) crawl ratio with manual tranny
Internal roll cage
Better ground clearance (by 1 inch)
Longer wheelbase
-- more front and rear passenger room
-- potentially nicer highway ride and easier time climbing
Shorter length overall (13 in), yielding shorter overhangs
-- better approach and departure angles
Narrower width (1 in)
-- it may possibly suffer less side damage on some trails
Larger windows
-- potentially better view of the trail
More cargo room
-- partly impeded by roll cage
Slightly better EPA mpg on paper
-- (we'll see when it hits the streets)

Disadvantages to the '07 H3:

Lower HP/weight ratio
Less HP & torque at low RPMs
Lower (worse) crawl ratio on auto tranny
Shorter track (by 3.5 in)
-- less stable on side slopes and maybe during cornering
Lower breakover angle (by 4 degrees)
-- more likely to high center
Wider curb-to curb turning circle (by 4 in)
-- less agile in turns or switchbacks
Smaller stock tire size (by 1 in)
-- plus a stock H3 can easily run 35's
Lower payload (by 150 lbs)
Lower tow rating (by 1000 lbs)
Lower roof load capacity

Anyway, it's all academic. Decide what you need, take a test drive, and pick the rig that gets it done for you. I wanted a 4-door rig to get me around in style and take me to places most people can't go. For me that's the H3.
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