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Old 01-15-2007, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KenP
I look forward to our discussion for it will be adequate if it has as much clearness as the subject-matter admits of, for precision is not to be sought for alike in all discussions, any more than in all the products of the crafts. Now fine and just actions, which political science investigates, admit of much variety and fluctuation of opinion, so that they may be thought to exist only by convention, and not by nature. And goods also give rise to a similar fluctuation because they bring harm to many people; for before now men have been undone by reason of their wealth, and others by reason of their courage. We must be content, then, in speaking of such subjects and with such premisses to indicate the truth roughly and in outline, and in speaking about things which are only for the most part true and with premisses of the same kind to reach conclusions that are no better. In the same spirit, therefore, should each type of statement be received; for it is the mark of an educated man to look for precision in each class of things just so far as the nature of the subject admits; it is evidently equally foolish to accept probable reasoning from a mathematician and to demand from a rhetorician scientific proofs.

Now each man judges well the things he knows, and of these he is a good judge. And so the man who has been educated in a subject is a good judge of that subject, and the man who has received an all-round education is a good judge in general. Hence a young man is not a proper hearer of lectures on political science; for he is inexperienced in the actions that occur in life, but its discussions start from these and are about these; and, further, since he tends to follow his passions, his study will be vain and unprofitable, because the end aimed at is not knowledge but action. And it makes no difference whether he is young in years or youthful in character; the defect does not depend on time, but on his living, and pursuing each successive object, as passion directs. For to such persons, as to the incontinent, knowledge brings no profit; but to those who desire and act in accordance with a rational principle knowledge about such matters will be of great benefit.

These remarks about the student, the sort of treatment to be expected, and the purpose of the inquiry, may be taken as our preface

Indeed! Your knowledge and wisdom on these things speaks clearly to my mind and I too look forward to exchange of thoughts of variant subject matter which be adequate if it has as much clearness as the subject-matter admits of, for precision is not to be sought for alike in all discussions, any more than in all the products of the crafts. Now fine and just actions - Yeah; Italian women R fine and actionalble. We must be content, then, in speaking of such subjects - or in my case(being on my honeymoon) merely viewing said subjects, but Oh to be King!
with such premisses to indicate the truth roughly and in outline - their clothes covered the truth roughly (albeit tightly), however their smooth and soft outlines were of an hourglass nature. Now each man judges well the things he knows, and of these he is a good judge. - I know of these things well however am confounded still from time to time.
And so the man who has been educated in a subject is a good judge of that subject, and the man who has received an all-round education is a good judge in general. - AHHHH! Education! Being taught of the differences - great and small, of the nuances between lust and love, only to be brought back to the port of indecision, wherein we must stand and ...pardon me 'I digress'! And it makes no difference whether he is young in years or youthful in character - I B the latter;
but to those who desire and act in accordance with a rational principle knowledge about such matters will be of great benefit. - I wish to act in accordance with all that I have learned in order to give my wife child - although it is difficult at times (when my wife calls during a meeting to tell me she's ovulating and that I need to come home); it will be well-worth the outcome(pardon the pun) when we are able to raise the child, Indeed, it will be of great benefit. -

I thank you for your continued ponderance and thought provoking words.
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