[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by humvee

Like I said, I'm not privy to government classified documentation and I can only make a judgement and opinion on what I see and observe. Is the war working?? Protect our country, Hell yes. If it came down to defending fighting for this country with a butter knife I would.
Do we need to be the World saviors, you tell me. What next take on Iran, China.........? When we run thin on troops then what? The men we have are tired and are going to be staying an additional 3 months on their tours.
We had the chance to get Hussein years ago and didn't. I don't have all the answers and you and I can debate this till the cows come home.

Oh and by the way, what Military division was Cheney in? Army, Airforce, Navy or Marines?

I thought you were defending calling Cheney a ?war criminal?? If he's not involved in the military chain of command, then I can't see how it could be so. If you are really saying, however, that someone involved in the military command (Cheney or someone else) sending his nation?s own troops to battle can be a ?war crime? just because some of the nation's citizens disagree with the war, then I really don?t know what to say. It?s objectively ludicrous. Few people or groups have ever been convicted of war crimes, and it?s not because of going to war. The Nazis weren?t convicted of war crimes because they invaded Poland, France, Russia, et al. It?s even more evil than unjustifiably going to war?which we didn?t. It was because they, like Saddam, gassed and tortured large numbers of civilians and the like. Bombing the sh!t out of an enemy?s military and economic infrastructure, even where it leads to civilian casualties has never been adopted as a war crime, because it advances a war aim. Genocide doesn?t. On the contrary, we?re fighting with our arms behind our backs to prevent damage to Iraq.

What you protesters will never know (I do?I was in the first Gulf War) is that, in times like these, what causes the most casualties is the resistance to the war and weakening the military commanders who fight it. Morale is almost everything in war. When troops know that they are doing something meaningful (BTW, the vast majority of them feel that, but it?s being eroded by the protestors), they fight much better with less casualties. This has been true for thousands of years. If the Democrats would magically tell the N. Koreans, the Iranians, and al Qaeda that ?look we think Bush is a dunce, and we disagree with all of his tax cuts, etc.., but, if you mess with us, we will support him 100% in his efforts to destroy you?don?t test us on that one,? the enemies would be shaking in their boots. Instead, they?re relying on the anti-war movement to do the dirty work against our own troops. A united America is unstoppable. Instead, you have Pelosi going to Damascus making up lies about what Israel is saying and, along with the Democrat leadership, trying to cut funding for the war. It?s demoralizing to our troops and inspiring to our enemies. That?s what is increasing the danger to our troops. Not the Democrat-sanctioned decision to go to war in the first place.

I'm done. I'm sure you'll take the last word and complain again about how long the debate is going on.