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Originally Posted by RazM

Nobody is knocking on the FJC, it's more the attitude of some Toyota owners, I think it comes with the brand. A lot of them act as if they're driving God's gift to the automotive industry. They'll talk about Toyota as being the most reliable car company, and everything else is crap. Naturally, when ANYTHING happens, especially of this magnitude, they're just asking for people to point and laugh.

Point taken. I've argued this same point on their forum. They mostly are of the opinion that Toyota trumps ALL others, ALL the time.

I've also advocated the purchase of American vehicles being good for the American people on their forum. Just like Pool Shark, I've been called a troll many times there. I'm not trolling there, I don't put down their vehicle. I just bring a different perspective to a largely group think atmosphere (Some of them are open minded). The Mods do censor there.

As much of a PITA as Dennis can be, I'm glad they don't here (mostly, except for the pics of Dennis on the wrong side of a winch) Didn't someone get banned for that? That is B.S. from here @ Elcova.

We think Hummers are better, they think FJ's are. Whatever, as long as you wheel it - who cares? We each gotta fix our own rigs. In this case it could end up costing Toyota some big bucks and some reputation. Toyota is now trying to build GM type numbers of vehicles, it's a lot harder to control the quality on larger numbers.


I think the FJ button has been pressed and held so much that it no longer functions. That is funny. The other day, I counted ten threads over there on the first two pages of "other vehicles", that all put down Hummers in some way.

I hope we don't start looking that insecure.