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As I have mentioned many times the statement made earlier in this thread about lower power is produced by higher octanes is true. 87 octane will always produce more power. I run it in my supercharged setup but, I run an intense tuning program to prevent preignition.

The E85 used in engines designed with present behind the curve ideas are less efficient. The manufactures could easily design engines to burn E85 to equal or beat the mpg in present regular fuel or E85.

Having farmed 30 years I can speak with some qualified knowledge that farmers are grateful for E85 which does not have to be made with just corn. My point though is I can quarantee that The American Farmer when and if called upon to produce for food and fuel can over produce themselves into the state of being broke and out of business. Mostly this is due to the middlemen making all the money. A few years ago I read some studies about how much of a box of finished table product the farmer got. The one that stuck with me because it was the one with the greatest by % of consumer cost that farmer received converted in dollars. From a box of corn flakes farmers received .05 of the total sell price of the box to the lady when she checked out. 5 cents can you imagine that and at the time it was estimated that it could be doubled to .10 to the farmer and the farmer could retire most debt within a couple of years. It was revealed that the person that sold the ink used to print the labeling on the box made more of that box of corn flakes.

Anyway improved engine design will easily make ethanol equal to if not better than regular gas. The farmer can produced enough grain to more than meet food and fuel needs without raising the cost to the American People as long as the middlemen are watched to prevent unfair markup or designed crisis of shortage of grain. No country in the world has ever been able to out produce The American Farmer as long as there is no unfair farm subsidy paid to the foreign farmers as it is now. French farmers get paid last I new $25 a bushel of soybeans when USA farmers were getting $6.50 a bushel. Japanese rice farmers get $25 + a 100 weight where USA farmers received $3 to $4 a 100 weight for superior quality to boot. Yet I have to concede to both nations that they have faced national starvation with near destruction of food producing capabilities and determined by the gov. that they would do their best not to have a return to those bad times. For our nation we have not ever faced total destruction except in the formative years of this country and again in the War of 1812. Our farmers can produce all we need given the incentive to do so whether financial or circumstance of the need of The USA such as time of world war etc.

Well to long but, informative I hope. I just wanted to reveal the correct and incorrect on both sides of E85 issue. Most probably knew anyway but, no one had made the point yet.

TAZ