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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
You are still missing the main point, most people don't understand, nor care about power to weight ratio. The reason for the 25% drop in sales is because GM oversold the first model year and the H2 is now selling like it should have in the first place. Blaming an underpowered engine is just silly, 99% of people that will buy one won't care or notice, they don't need the power of a bigger engine. As to pulling stuff, H1's are not a good tow vehicle...there is no debating this, a Dodge Cummins will out tow one anyday. This discussion has gotten stupid. We haven't said you were wrong about it being underpowered, that may well be (although having never driven one, who knows we may all be surprised), what we have said is that it IS typical of the brand and that most people looking to buy one won't care and it won't impact sales.

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No, I'm not missing the point at all. Unfortunately, it's still you that is. You say that ppl looking to buy an H2 don't care about power. That's your opinion, but doesn't necessarily mean fact. Many ppl that buy H2s or look at them as an option are your typical soccor mom/dad ppl with no real offroad intentions at all. Then when they compare it(H2) to another vehicle and see the lower power to weight, they MAY think again. We could debate this fact over and over. Neither one of us can read ppl's minds, but for you to assume that the biggest reason H2's dropped in sales numbers is due to OVERSELLING by GM, that is pretty silly(your own word). No automaker is going to try and NOT sell as many vehicles as possible. Yes, many ppl bought them cuz they were new and now that they have been around a couple years, the newness has worn of to some degree and that does impact sales. But thats not the same thing as OVERSELLING LOL!
Anyhow....you also don't seem to understand that the original military hummer when it was introduced only had 150 HP. Now today, the H1 has 205. Not a big massive improvement, but some. The point tho, is that the military ones were still PULLING trailers that a dodge with a cummins deisel simply can't pull because of the total weight of the trailer. The Hummer is made to Pull things because of the frame its built from and the torque the engine has. The total HP isnt as important for the military version since its not really designed primarily for highway use and has no need to go 100MPH(which it can't), but can pull a 500 gallon water buffalo with ease.
More ppl care about power to weight issue then you think, especially those wanting to pull boats and such. And for those thinking about buying an H2 because of the eliteness factor, they will also consider a Cadillac Escalade(or EXT) and that vehicle has 345HP and weighs 900 pounds less. Obviously a much better power to weight ration then H2.
Maybe you didnt look at power to weight ratio when you bought your H2 or you didn't care, but that is you. A mojority of ppl would not think along your thought process in the real world outside of this forum. They would look at all a vehicle has to offer and its advantages and disadvantages to other vehicles. Anyone with the money to buy either isn't going to be a fool and just buy something in this price range with zero research. They are not dumb to begin with since they are in a position to have the money to buy this type of vehicle(unless they inherited money).