No I just thought we were both not going budge, it gets boring for others to read a rant going back and forth, I do not wish to subject them to that, I will still think my sons LR3 is awesome. and that my 75 modle 2 land rover or my 83 toyota hilux pickup prob were the best 4x4 stock I ever owned, but technology goes on and we buy new becuse old ges old, by the way neither had over 100 hp or did I run over 31 tires on either
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