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01-26-2005, 05:03 PM
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I need new tires. what should I buy Irok's or BFG MT's? Please help.
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01-26-2005, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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I need new tires. what should I buy Irok's or BFG MT's? Please help.
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01-28-2005, 05:06 AM
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I keep a set of BFG ATs on for the street. Have swamper radials on another set of wheels for off road. If I had it to do over again I would get the MT for street as the AT isn't that much better in snow and rain, but I wouldn't trade my swampers for the world. The BFG mt is no mud tire, I barely consider them an off road tire. If you want a true off roader, look at swamper, Mickeys (claws), or at least MTR's. Parnelli Jones are also decent.
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01-29-2005, 12:29 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
Are you sure about the facts in that last post? BFG MT's consistently rate as one of the top 3 mud tires available <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That would make them better than swampers, swamper radials, swamper sx's, and boggers, not to mention claws, buckshots, BFG Krawlers, Nitto mudgrapplers, and parnelli jones. I have a hard time taking the person who rated BFG MT's above these tires. I would look into a different rating guide.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> (I personally think MT/R's do worse in mud than the stock AT's). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I doubt that they do worse (I have owned both tires and that is not my experience whatsoever)but their mud performance is still not vastly different enough to consider either one for the mud. The MTR is a much superior rock tire, however. It has better grip and it resist punctures much better.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> And by the way Mickey thompson doesn't make a set of Baja Claws that will fit an H2 with stock hubs and the Competition Claws are to wide for the stock rims (while they may go on, they really are too wide). If you like that pattern, go with the 35" x-terrains, much better tire IMO, but they still aren't the best thing for mud.
S <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A 13" tire is too wide for the hummers wheels??? 315mm is 12.4 inches!!! Better recheck that!!!
There are also Claw radials which come in 33, 35, or 37 inch tires that will fit the rims.
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01-29-2005, 01:39 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Superman:
A 13" tire is too wide for the hummers wheels??? 315mm is 12.4 inches!!! Better recheck that!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Bearing in mind that the stock AT comes with a section width of 12.0" and rubs the sway bar on some H2's, it did on mine, and the 37x13.50x17 Baja Claw comes with a 13.6" section width, I'd say there is a good chance that it will rub heavily.
The 35" Claw (12.3" section width) may be okay, but my 35" Xterrains rubbed more than the stock tires, and they have only a slightly larger section width than stock at 12.6".
My 37" SSR's with a section width of 13.0" rub heavily on the sway bar and frame. So the 37" Claw at 13.6" is almost definitely going to rub. You can pick up some cheap ProComp steel rims with less backspacing that will most probably cure the rubbing issue.
It should be noted that section width is not the same as tread width, which is nearly always less than the section width. The section width is most relevant when looking at rubbing issues. Also important is the rim width, bigger tires generally work better on wider rims, and although most 37's will fit on a stock rim okay, they are at the limits and more likely to cause the bead to pop under stress. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
... and not to mention once they are aired down, anything wider than a 12.50 on a stock rim can wreck the rear air susp. sensor too. I run the BFG MT's in a 37" and love the tire. It did very well in Moab, and it great on the road too. I have not tired the SSR's so I cannot comment on those.
Coach, it all really depends on what type of driving you do and how serious you run your rig in the mud.
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