Mexico/ USA border maps

[KenP]

This is worthy of it's own thread.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13706522.htm

Mexico offers maps to protect lives of illegal border crossers

MEXICO CITY - A Mexican government commission said Tuesday that it would distribute at least 70,000 maps showing highways, rescue beacons and water tanks in the Arizona desert to curb the death toll among illegal border crossers.
The National Human Rights Commission, a government-funded agency with independent powers, denied that the maps -- similar to a comic-style guide booklet Mexico distributed last year -- would encourage illegal immigration.
Officials said the maps would help those in trouble find rescue beacons and areas with cell phone reception. The maps will also show the distance a person can walk in the desert in a single day.
``We are not trying in any way to encourage or promote migration,'' said Mauricio Farah, one of the commission's national inspectors. ``The only thing we are trying to do is warn them of the risks they face and where to get water, so they don't die.''
Russ Knocke, a U.S. Homeland Security Department official, questioned whether the maps would keep those crossing the border safer.
``It is not helpful for anyone, no matter how well intended they might be, to produce road maps that lead aliens into the desolate and dangerous areas along the border, and potentially invite criminal activity, human exploitation and personal risk,'' he said.
And some advocates of greater immigration control were irritated by the map announcement.
``What's next? Are they going to buy them bus tickets to Chicago?'' said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank. ``It's clearly a bad thing for Mexico to be encouraging illegal immigration.''
The comic booklet for migrants was distributed by the government in early 2005 and warned of the perils of crossing illegally into the United States, while offering tips to stay safe.
The booklet, of which about 1.5 million were printed, enraged some advocates of stricter immigration policies in the United States who argue that it encouraged illegal migration.
Farah said his commission was simply trying to prevent deaths and estimated that around 500 Mexicans died trying to cross the border in 2005. Many die in the desert, where summer temperatures soar above 100 degrees, and many drown while attempting to cross the Rio Grande.
The commission plans to hang the poster-size maps in March in places where migrants will see them, such as migrant-aid groups, the commission's offices and in Mexican border towns.
They were designed by the Tucson, Ariz.-based rights group Humane Borders, which operates some of the desert water stations. The group previously distributed about 100 posters in the Mexican border town of Sasabe.
The Rev. Robin Hoover, president of Humane Borders, said maps are needed in southern Mexico so migrants can weigh the risks before leaving home.
Some of the posters have warnings, such as ``Don't go. There isn't enough water,'' but officials conceded that many migrants were unlikely to heed the advice.
Knocke said the United States had increased personnel and surveillance along the border to discourage illegal crossings and immigrant smugglers.
``Our message should be clear: We are securing our borders and we're dramatically increasing the likelihood of apprehensions,'' he said.
Farah said migration ``is a human right'' and that ``the United States should be grateful'' the commission is doing something to curb the death toll, because ``hundreds of thousands of Mexicans help maintain their economy.''
Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second-largest source of foreign currency after oil exports, according to the country's central bank.

Those responsible:

http://www.humaneborders.org/

[KenP]

This is worthy of it's own thread.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13706522.htm

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Mexico offers maps to protect lives of illegal border crossers

MEXICO CITY - A Mexican government commission said Tuesday that it would distribute at least 70,000 maps showing highways, rescue beacons and water tanks in the Arizona desert to curb the death toll among illegal border crossers.
The National Human Rights Commission, a government-funded agency with independent powers, denied that the maps -- similar to a comic-style guide booklet Mexico distributed last year -- would encourage illegal immigration.
Officials said the maps would help those in trouble find rescue beacons and areas with cell phone reception. The maps will also show the distance a person can walk in the desert in a single day.
``We are not trying in any way to encourage or promote migration,'' said Mauricio Farah, one of the commission's national inspectors. ``The only thing we are trying to do is warn them of the risks they face and where to get water, so they don't die.''
Russ Knocke, a U.S. Homeland Security Department official, questioned whether the maps would keep those crossing the border safer.
``It is not helpful for anyone, no matter how well intended they might be, to produce road maps that lead aliens into the desolate and dangerous areas along the border, and potentially invite criminal activity, human exploitation and personal risk,'' he said.
And some advocates of greater immigration control were irritated by the map announcement.
``What's next? Are they going to buy them bus tickets to Chicago?'' said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank. ``It's clearly a bad thing for Mexico to be encouraging illegal immigration.''
The comic booklet for migrants was distributed by the government in early 2005 and warned of the perils of crossing illegally into the United States, while offering tips to stay safe.
The booklet, of which about 1.5 million were printed, enraged some advocates of stricter immigration policies in the United States who argue that it encouraged illegal migration.
Farah said his commission was simply trying to prevent deaths and estimated that around 500 Mexicans died trying to cross the border in 2005. Many die in the desert, where summer temperatures soar above 100 degrees, and many drown while attempting to cross the Rio Grande.
The commission plans to hang the poster-size maps in March in places where migrants will see them, such as migrant-aid groups, the commission's offices and in Mexican border towns.
They were designed by the Tucson, Ariz.-based rights group Humane Borders, which operates some of the desert water stations. The group previously distributed about 100 posters in the Mexican border town of Sasabe.
The Rev. Robin Hoover, president of Humane Borders, said maps are needed in southern Mexico so migrants can weigh the risks before leaving home.
Some of the posters have warnings, such as ``Don't go. There isn't enough water,'' but officials conceded that many migrants were unlikely to heed the advice.
Knocke said the United States had increased personnel and surveillance along the border to discourage illegal crossings and immigrant smugglers.
``Our message should be clear: We are securing our borders and we're dramatically increasing the likelihood of apprehensions,'' he said.
Farah said migration ``is a human right'' and that ``the United States should be grateful'' the commission is doing something to curb the death toll, because ``hundreds of thousands of Mexicans help maintain their economy.''
Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second-largest source of foreign currency after oil exports, according to the country's central bank.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Those responsible:

http://www.humaneborders.org/

[CO Hummer]

Is that Shaggy in the pic?

[wilfred]

That's gotta be one of the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard!! Like Mark Krikorian said, what's next??

Few years ago, I went horseback riding in San Diego. Along the trails, I saw endless of kids belongings - shoes, teddy bears, etc... Problem was, these trails are miles away from any home so it's not likely they were left behind from the local kids. Before I knew it, I saw a family dashing from bush to bush And just few hundred feet away, I saw one of those light green immigration patrol. As I was going to inform the officer of my alien encounter, I see this big fat lady sleeping in the patrol with the engine/ac running

[Lucifer]

UPDATE: Mexico Halts Border Maps Hand-Out

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060126/...o_migrant_maps

Damn, there goes my migrant hunting map.

[KenP]

So we're told the maps are to help those in need of help and not ot encourage border crossing, yet in pulling the map program they say:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "This would be practically like telling the Minutemen where the migrants are going to be," Paredes said. "We are going to rethink this, so that we wouldn't almost be handing them over to groups that attack migrants." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DRTYFN]

I'd use the map to set up sniper nests.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
I'd use the map to set up sniper nests. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That's what they were afraid of.