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10-27-2003, 01:47 PM
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10-27-2003, 11:14 PM
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Jim,
I'm still very uncertain about moving towards an H1. Jason can tell you that I'm agonizing over which model to get and whether it'll really work for me & my situation.
I've got my opinions...but it would seem as if I'm choosing sides and knocking one vehicle over the other....so I'll proceed carefully.
The only reason for me to move towards a 1 is the offroad ability that would allow me to play hardball with some of the uglier stuff I've come up against. The more dramatic approach/departure angles would come in handy, the clearance underneath....and especially the skid-plates that can take the abuse. I'm not the least concerned about having the more impressive model or turning heads...I'm after the clearance and heavy-metal protection.
The H2 lacks clearance, we know this. I've considered the 2"-4" lift to help this, but I'm concerned about sacrificing side-slope stability...you can ask Jason about how much I tend to get sideways and get into situations where I'd be worried about anything raised. Seems to me most people run the lift entirely for looks...I'm very concerned about raising my center-of-gravity!
What I keep chasing is what I call "raising the skirt": I just want more clearance and less to get caught-up on...without sacrificing stability. The lift is not lifting the skirt...but slapping on a pair of high heels: looks hot, stable it's not! Darn if that analogy doesn't work too well 
Oh yeah....I'd also lock myself out of my garage and that means plugging up my driveway and condemning the rig to a life exposed to the elements. Not to mention warranty issues, an increased height issue, decreased mpg/power, etc. I don't think the lift is the answer.
Until I saw your set-up, I didn't think an H2 could have heavy-metal protection on her bumpers. I dread dragging that rear-plastic down a rock! Just so ya know, my buddy Bill is putting together some awesome rock-rails that protrude further OUTWARD and have complete shielding (not webbing or ladders) along the side. I'll be sure to hook you up with him.
Now...as far as the 1, I don't think it would ever be more then just a weekend basher to offroad with. I doubt my wife will enjoy driving upto a weekend vacation home with 3 little kids and crammed into the passenger seat. The comfort sucks, the ergonomics blow and everything you gain in offroad performance you pay dearly for in comfort, reliability and overall practicality. Still...it's a bad-ass toy!
The solution is to have both rigs, but that just goes against my common sense. If I get a 1, it'll be a soft-top. I'll do it up 100% for offroad assualt, and I just may lift it 2" and run some 40-42" tires. E-lockers front & rear.
Yes, the lift takes it up...but it's sooooo wide that I doubt it'll compromise anything AND it'll still fit in the garage cause 1's are lower!
So these are my thoughts. Boring read...sorry.
I may just keep the 2. All these newbies and Hummer Happenings I seem to be involved with...they need to see a 2 "do it" so they know it can be done.
To make matters more interesting, that Hummmer magazine is starting to look like a reality, the club I started is up to about 200 members and my life is getting complicated!
Calgon take me away!
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10-27-2003, 05:33 PM
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Looks like someone was smart enough to RainX their windshield before mudding.  |
10-27-2003, 05:34 PM
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10-27-2003, 02:35 PM
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One of the picture shows the bent license plate syndrome. Mine does the same thing every time I splash around in the mud. Cool pictures.
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10-29-2003, 01:18 PM
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Steve R. I feel your pain. As you can see from my sig I faced this same dilema and choose an H1. Almost the same reasons you outlined. Mostly off-roading and a weekend toy.
Not sure I want to go down the road of H1 vs H2 performance. There are differences. I've seen it from both sides now.
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11-04-2003, 03:54 PM
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I do have the aftermarket intake, and even though everything else was covered, the design of the intake kept the filter nice and clean.
It buts up right against the hood, and seals well from the elements..
I went through the mud about half as much as Detonate, but I did spend several hours over a coulple days getting everything clean.
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10-29-2003, 04:09 PM
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Man that pic looks like it has CGI all over it. That is a great camra. |
10-27-2003, 11:18 PM
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Nice pics, makes me want to get mine dirty.. hahaha
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10-27-2003, 09:44 PM
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Detonate,
H2's are awesome and yes they can hang quite easily with an H1. I've have now owned both so I do have a little experience.
As far as comfort goes I don't think the H1 will ever be as comfy as the H2. The H2 is just too darn nice inside with many creature comforts like heated seats that move anywhere you want them, however, the H1 has come a long way from its Humvee roots. I have now had mine for a few weeks and this sucker is quite comfortable, not nearly as loud as I thought it was going to be and actually hung with my wife's Tahoe as I followed her home from Santa Barbara this weekend meaning the engine was powerful enough to stay at 75 without the hint of a struggle. I do have a 2003 and it is my understanding there have been significant upgrades as each model year marches on.
I absolutely love the diesel. It's smooth, has plenty of power on the road and is a monster on the trail. It just feels great when your chugging up a hill with that sucker. The interior is no match for the H2 but it's good enough for government work and I kind of like the cockpit feel.
The determining factor for me was the tax break. I did not get the 100% write-off with my H2 but I will with this one, which kind of fell in my lap or maybe I would not have done it.
H1, H2 doesn't matter just keep it a Hummer.
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11-04-2003, 03:01 PM
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That make sense after looking at the designs of the two
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10-27-2003, 07:37 PM
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So Jim....when are you gonna get that pavement princess off the asphalt and into some real offroading???? 
Just FYI, same thing was done up near Gorman about one year ago at a Hummer Happening sponsored by The Hummer Club.....several H2's blasted through the mud in a similar fashion. Several H2's also lost their alternators due to mud infiltration as well!!!!
Love your bumpers.....if I don't pick-up an H1 soon...I may run the same thing!
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10-27-2003, 09:11 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
Love your bumpers.....if I don't pick-up an H1 soon...I may run the same thing!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So you are considering an H1 now too?
Can I ask why?
Having wheeled with other H1's on several occasions now, I can honestly say that I've lost all desire to own one.
I always knew how uncomfotable they were on road, and I've always known how awesome they were off road. But was has surprised me, is how well the H2 can keep up with the H1.
It just need a couple modifications, and I think it can go toe to toe with the H1.
The bumpers I got have made approaching and departing any obstacle a snap, even if I can't make it, at least I don't hurt my truck.
Soon there are going to be some heavy duty rock rails / nerf bars from the same company that will help prevent what Happen to Dirty, as well as provide much better protection underneath.
Toss on a 4" Lift , 37" Xterrans, and a Front Locker, and you are unstoppable. Hands down. Or you could go with the 6" lift and up to 39" tires if that's your thing.
My point is that I think the H2 is on par with the H1.
I can't make an arguement on owning one anymore.
-Jim March
Arlington TX
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10-27-2003, 01:58 PM
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11-03-2003, 12:16 AM
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Very nice PIX! I gotta be honest it takes BALLS to go get the H2 that MUDDY!
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11-03-2003, 11:43 PM
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the first question that comes to mind is do you have an aftermarket intake, such as an airforceone? if so is the intake getting wet.
I would love to splash around like that, just want to know if I have to go back to the stock intake before doing so.
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10-27-2003, 01:47 PM
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10-27-2003, 03:43 PM
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I like the monochromatic brown look.
Nice splash pic.
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11-02-2003, 10:03 PM
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HEY...
did you video tape it this and then take some frames out for the pics.... I find it hard to beleive that the camera was able to stop the action soo well.... una
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11-04-2003, 12:13 AM
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My entire engine under the hood was coated in about 1/4 inch of mud.
I don't have an after market intake, but I'm sure if I did, it would have been toast.
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Arlington TX
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