New 35x12.50x17 Toyo MTs

[DRTYFN]

I couldn't stand it any longer. I had to try these new Toyo MTs. As most of you know I'm a bit of a tire packrat. I've got a set of brand new stock BFG ATs on stock wheels, a set of 37x12.50x17 Iroks on black stock wheels, a set of siped stock BFG ATs w/o wheels and a set of 37x12.50x17 MTRs on black wheels. The MTRs were getting down to the 50-60% tread range so I figured it was time to try some new tires(in anticipation of the next Moab trip). I've been hearing great reviews on the Toyos so I called up my local Les Schwab store and ordered a set.

I was surprised to see that the 35" Toyo was as tall as(if not slightly taller)the 37" GY MTR. The Toyo also looks wider because of the tread design and sturdier outer lugs. The Toyos look more aggressive than the MTRs, but ride as quietly as the stock BFG ATs. Directional stability is much improved over the 37" Iroks and a bit better than the MTRs.

I took the following pictures to show the flex of an aired down Toyo MT vs a GY MTR. Both were aired down to 15.5psi.

[DRTYFN]

I'll check tomorrow. But the Iroks are super tall.
I went with the 35's because the 37's only come in a 13.50 width and those would rub like Oprah's thighs rushing to a buffet.

[H2_SUT_SC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
Very nice Rod </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, Phil.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Next you need to lift it and start the whole process off again with tires/rims </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stop it, Phil. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL

Very nice rig rodster. Did you turn up the torsion bars? Cause it doesn't appear you did. Rubbing issues?

[rodster]

Looks good! Dang, just when I thought I'd made up my mind about the IROKs you go and get these.

Why 35s and not 37s? How tall are the Toyos compared to the IROKs?

[Big Z]

Finally got Um! Cool! Over a year on mine, no complaints!


http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/3.../368107264#368107264

[H2Finally]

J/K! Great comparo. You sure they're same size? The Toyos quieter though huh?... hmm... anyone need a set of BRAND NEW MTRs???

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2_SUT_SC:
Very nice rig rodster. Did you turn up the torsion bars? Cause it doesn't appear you did. Rubbing issues? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks. Still have fender flares in the garage to mount so that'll help the look.

I haven't done the torsion bars (yet). The tires have a whopping 4 miles on 'em so not sure what kind of rubbing issues will surface. The trailing, outboard edges of the front tires do rub on the plastic fender liner but I'm not too concerned about that.

[DRTYFN]

And then there will be <span class="ev_code_RED">HELL</span> to pay!!!

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drmiles:
Yes it will rub with the 4.5" offset, the only way you can get 37 x 13.5 tires to fit is to use the factory wheels. I'm sure the offset on factory wheel is less than that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm. I'm talking 4 1/4" backspace. You, 4.5" offset. Are we on the same frequency?

Also, this thread says the factory backspace is 5.5".

Yup, it's official, I'm confused.

[rodster]

37x13.50x18 Toyo Open Country M/T tires
18x9.5 American Racing Mojave Teflon wheels (4.25" backspace)

[DRTYFN]

MTR @ 15.5 psi against curb.

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
Very nice Rod </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, Phil.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Next you need to lift it and start the whole process off again with tires/rims </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stop it, Phil.

[DRTYFN]

Take into consideration that the MTRs have been used quite a bit and the Toyos are brand new.

When I get around to it I'll show the Iroks, too.

37x13.50s on aftermarket rims, no lift, fabtech steering. only rub is on the plastic fenderwell when i'm doing a uturn. or articulating a bit, but even this one barely had the driver's side rubbing

[DRTYFN]

Toyo MT @ 15.5 psi against a curb.

[CslRkH2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Doc,
I ran out to Brown's Camp last week and tried them out on Hog's Back. Usually I need to reposition once when going up HB, but with the Toyos I walked right up and never even slipped a tire. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Any Post-Moab update on the Toyos? Would you buy the Toyos over the GY-MTRs if you didn't have either?

[Christa]

Those Toyos look very nice on your rig.(even if there is not one bit of pretty shiny chrome to be seen ) I have the same tires except mine are the 37's. Mine don't rub, but I dont do the wheeling that you do. The toyos are very quiet, ride smooth and give the truck a nice stance. You'll love them. They look mean!
Why so many sets of tires? Are you a fickle bitch or do you use different tires for different terrain or weather?

[H2_SUT_SC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kacyk:
I've had these on my wife's H2 for some time now and she loves them. No need to air them down going over the Bellevue Mall speed bumps! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are those 20x10's?? Offset?

Looks great kacyk. What brand rims are those, I love the deep dish look.

[drmiles]

Rodster,

I have the Toyo 37's on stock rims. Love the result. Minor rubbing in front resolved when I put on the Fabtech HD steering components.
Also had one air bag sensor connecting rod get broken by the tire on the right rear..

see pic below

also view this link
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...1/m/2921015421


Overall VERY glad I went with the 37x13.5x17's

nally posted by rodster:
Think I just answered one of my own questions. Looking at Toyo's website it doesn't look like the 37s will fit a stock 17 rim?[/quote]

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drmiles:
Sorry I was working and trying to answer you at the same time.

I didn't know the factory backspacing

If 5.5 is correct and you switch to 4.25 instead of the usual 4.5 that would bring the tire in closer to the frame a 1/4", probably still rub with the 13.5 tires.

Also every Hummer is a little different some rub more than others with the 37 x 12.5 tire and 4.5 spacing. 4.25 would help that.

I guess you just have to go to the tire store and test fit...

Good Luck </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That looks sweet drmiles! If the rubbing is minimal, I may go that route when its time to buy.