Luv my H2, but have 2 big disapointments

[GamblerHummer]

I luv my 2005 Black H2 , but I have some major disapointments.
1) The paint job is pathetic, and that is about as nice as I can put it. It is not durable at all. It chips very easily, and the paint job is paper thin. Also, I have all kinds of debri/trash and what looks like metallic paint mist stuck in the clear coat from when they sprayed it. They will not do anythiing about it, becaue they refuse to break factory paint. You can only see if it when the truck is detailed and you look closely.

2) The towing ability is no where near as strong as my Ford f150 CREW. There is just no power at all even in the tow mode when towing anything over 3000-lbs. My mpg also drops down to 9 when towing. This a full 3-4 mpg less than I see when not towing. I only dropped 1 mpg with my F150.

Overall, I love the truck and highly recomend it. However, if improvements are not made in these 2 areas, I doubt I will get one again. I will probably just get another ford f150 crew for towing, or if I have the money a H1.

[raptor2ride]

Thanks for the pic. I wish Hummer would do the same thing Ford did with their brake controller on the Superduties.

[GamblerHummer]

Mizzou...I do not like the ineterior on the 250's with the powerstrokes. If they would drop the powerstroke in the F150 I would do that.

I had a long talk with someone supposedly in the know at Hummer that says the future H2 will address towing , and paint. They say the duramax is in it's future.

paragon.. do a search on chrome fuel doors, and you will see where I proved you wrong. So go ahead and start dragging that tracter/trailer and I will be waiting. The simple fact that you have to result to name calling , is a clear indication you know I am right.

I will see if I can get picture next time out, but it will not prove anything. Additionally, Hummer is not refuting my claims, and it sounds like they are addressing them.

Once again... Show me any kind of proof that the H1's are sprayed in the same location as the H2's.


longhorn... nice win saturday BTW, it is a true story on the new F150. 3,000lbs was nothing for it. My H2 really struggles. I agree it doesn't meet my needs, and should probaly sell it. However, Hummer says they want to bring it in and have some people look at it, and get a few different opinions on the paint, and the towing issues , so I am going to give them that chance.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GamblerHummer:

Why would you accept such a horrible paint job, on a 55-60k vehicle? or lack of power compared to another comparable towing vehicle? Only a dolt would accept such mediocrity so blindly ? I stand behind what I said,, and reported it to JD Powers and GM/Hummer. I sincerely hope they listen. Unless people are honest and tell them , how are they suppose to ever correct things? What are you doing to make things better?

I also will be happy to share my VIN number. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You are obviously an intelligent person. Why would you buy a vehicle with a less than stellar paint job if you are so concerned about paint? Why would you buy a vehicle with a towing capacity less than you require? Why buy a vehicle just to complain about?

Maybe you didn't do your Due Diligence. That's the problem. YOU are looking to blame someone else for your mistakes. I bet you're a lawyer. If not, step up and take responsibility. Stop blaming your shortcomings on others.

The HUMMER line is designed for offroad use as the primary concern. Everything else comes secondary.

Bitch about the paint.... It's not a show truck.
Bitch about the towing capacity.... It's not a tow truck.
Bitch about it's mileage.... It's not a Prius.

You made the choice to buy the vehicle. It wasn't forced upon you.

[KenP]

Why do you keep digging up old threads?

You stink of troll. Time will tell, smelly boy.

[PARAGON]

Just what I thought. Another fcking liar wanting to pretend to own a HUMMER.

[Longhorn]

I have towed 8-9K (Bobcat + Rock) that was VERY well balanced on a dual axle flatbead. Togue weight was still well over the factory recomended limit. It wasn't pretty but it did the job over a short distance. Stopping was the scary part.

I tow a Ski Nautique (3-4K) most weekends with no problem. You can certainly tell its back there and I get about 8-9mpg. No surprise there! EXACTLY as expected.

I call TOTAL BS on your mpg while towing with your ****ty ford. My Z71 Dropped 3-4 mpg towing my boat. For that matter, my Dad's duramax drops 2-3 and ITS A DIESEL!!

You should sell the H2. It obviously doesn't meet your "expectations".

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GamblerHummer:
I luv my 2005 Black H2 , but I have some major disapointments.
1) The paint job is pathetic, and that is about as nice as I can put it. It is not durable at all. It chips very easily, and the paint job is paper thin. Also, I have all kinds of debri/trash and what looks like metallic paint mist stuck in the clear coat from when they sprayed it. They will not do anythiing about it, becaue they refuse to break factory paint. You can only see if it when the truck is detailed and you look closely.

2) The towing ability is no where near as strong as my Ford f150 CREW. There is just no power at all even in the tow mode when towing anything over 3000-lbs. My mpg also drops down to 9 when towing.

Overall, I love the truck and highly recomend it. However, if improvements are not made in these 2 areas, I doubt I will get one again. I will probably just get another ford f150 crew for towing, or if I have the money a H1. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The paint job sucks.

As for towing, many here tow much larger rigs with no problems at all.

If you're worried about your mileage dropping while towing something weighing 3000 lbs, too bad. All vehicles do it and you must be an idiot. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I doubt I will get one again. I will probably just get another ford f150 crew for towing, or if I have the money a H1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Bitch about mileage, bitch about towing, bitch about paint. Yet you're interested in an H1. You rank Number 4 on the Top Ten of Stupidity.

[PARAGON]

I could not find a place to permanently mount the controller. The bottom of the dash is too far out of the way and the controller would hit my shin. I was doing other stuff and had my dash apart, so I decided to find a place to stick one in the dash. Not very pretty but I do screw with the voltage on the brakes quite a bit getting them set just right and having the controller handy is a must for me.

[GamblerHummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Why do you keep digging up old threads?

You stink of troll. Time will tell, smelly boy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
old thread? It is a honest opinion, if people are repeating it the maybe you ought to take it seriously instead of resulting to mindless name calling. I sincerely hope GM does. About the only thing your diety of is showing your ignorance. I like the looks and off road abilty of the Hummer, thats the only reason I will go H1, if they can not imporove on the H2 paint, and towing. However, if I do not have 130-140 large, I will just go back to a Ford new F150. I refuse to buy used. The H2 pulls the boat just fine, but it strains, lacks power and the gas milaegae drops into single digits. When I pull boast higher than 3000lbs I really feel it. I am 13 mpg around town when not towing and 16-17 highway now, and a drop down to 9 mpg is just unacceptable. I only lost 1 mpg when towing my boat with the F150. I am not going to lie for you, or GM. I am not sure why you would accept thsi, but maybe you just do not expect much for 50-60K, but I personally do.

[HummerNewbie]

I just towed a trailer with a Yota 4x4 on it last night with my Ford and my mileage went from 15 to 10. I was not surprised by the drop in mileage when towing and not sure why anyone would be

[GamblerHummer]

A little advice KenP, you can not scare what you can not see. The tuff guy act is so 1980's. I do not care how many post you got on this board, it doesn't make you any smarter than anybody else. Unless, you have towed with both a H2, and a 2004-2006 Ford F-150 with the 5.4 you would have no idea how to relate to what I have expressed. I promise you if you do, you will see what I am talking about.

Why would you accept such a horrible paint job, on a 55-60k vehicle? or lack of power compared to another comparable towing vehicle? Only a dolt would accept such mediocrity so blindly ? I stand behind what I said,, and reported it to JD Powers and GM/Hummer. I sincerely hope they listen. Unless people are honest and tell them , how are they suppose to ever correct things? What are you doing to make things better?

I also will be happy to share my VIN number.

[GamblerHummer]

Ken ...I never meant this to turn into lets's bash a H2 thread. I luv the truck, and take full ownership for buying it. If I am guily of anything, I am guilty of letting Hummer/GM over sell the vehicle to me. I have no patience for excuses . It is time that GM takes the responsability for addressing these shortcomings . They can only pass the blame on to the consumer so long. We have to voice our opinions, or things will remain the same.

I meant to write towing over 3000lbs, and edited it. I agree it is not made for the sole purpiose of being a tow truck. However, the towing capacity is listed at 6700lbs and the F150 Crew at 7,200. . I rarely pull anything above 4,000lbs. So I was not expecting to big of a drop off in power and performance when towing. It was sold as such by Hummer/GM to me . Towing was a concern, but they assured me it was no issue. I guess I could have drove my boat up to the dealership and asked to test drive pulling decent load.

I did a lot of research, but not on paint. So that is my fault for not be aware of issues . I agree it is not a show truck, however I never imagined a 55-60K paint job would be this bad. I know you have had to see how thin, imperfect and durable this paint is. It is just not acceptable.


I have no problems with mileage with my H2. I did not buy it for that, and am very happy with my mpg when not towing.

[PARAGON]

This thread is as stupid as it can get. If you are for real and really own an H2 and these are your true complaints, then GM/AM General doesn't have anything to worry about. By the way, the truck is built by AM General, painted by AM General. Go take a look at the paint on the $140K H1 you spout you would buy, it's the same paint applied in the same booths. Same orange peel and same issues that H1 owners have complained about for years.

As for towing, you're stupid. Simply admit it and move on. You didn't need to take your bass boat up to the dealership to "test tow" it. If you would have applied a little of the physics that you should have learned in high school and read the specs of the H2, you would know exactly what type of tow vehicle you have. I consistently tow with my H2, so much so that I have brake controller custom made into my dash, up to 10K lbs. It's not my primary tow vehicle but is usually the most convenient to pull with and does so much better than any other SUV except a Suburban/Yukon XL or Excursion.

You state you have no problems with the mileage with your H2 yet you complain that, as logic would hold, mileage drops when you drag a trailer.

Simply move on. You've posted BS here before and I caught you lying about it.

[Efrain]

Nice to meet you Ken! Hope you and I and the rest of the community here can establish a friendship based a mutual respect based on our love of hummers and without any hostility and animosity.

[raptor2ride]

. I consistently tow with my H2, so much so that I have brake controller custom made into my dash, up to 10K lbs.


Hey PARAGON do you have any pictures of your brake controller? Iam looking at getting a different one to install and I was interested by your "made into my dash". Thanks!

[Efrain]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Efrain:
Why all that hostiliy on a fellow poster, why not just let him vent? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
hostiliy = hostility sorry about the typo

[Efrain]

You still seem hostile, Ken, and though I we haven't met face to face, we have been communicating through this thread. If you notice on my first reply to Gambler Hummer, I mentioned that I have a 2005 pewter H2. Yes, later on I will post a picture of my H2. I bought from Ken Batchelor Cadillac/Saab/Hummer in San Antonio, Texas and will provide you with the vin upon request.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GamblerHummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Why do you keep digging up old threads?

You stink of troll. Time will tell, smelly boy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
old thread? It is a honest opinion, if people are repeating it the maybe you ought to take it seriously instead of resulting to mindless name calling. I sincerely hop GM does. About the only thing your diety of is showing your ignorance. I like the looks and off road abilty of the Hummer, thats the only reason I will go H1, if they can not imporove on the H2 paint, and towing. Howeever, if I do not have 130-140 large, I will just go back to a Ford new F150. I refuse to buy used. Edit by KenP: You're f'in stupid. The H2 pulls the boat just fine, but it strains, lacks power and he gas milaegae drops into single digits. When I pull boast higher than 300lbs I really feel it. I am 13 mpg around town when not towing and 16-17 highway now, and a drop down to 9 mpg is just unacceptable. I only lost 1 mpg when towing my boat with the F150.Edit: Buy it back. I am not going to lie for you, or GM. I am not sure why you would accept what a your seeing. but maybe you just do not expect much for 50-60K, but I personally do.Edit: I checked the mileage BEFORE I bought the truck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Let's try to make this clear for the slower members of this forum.

CumblerHumbler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I agreed with you on the Paint by posting:
The paint job sucks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> However, you followed with:
I like the looks and off road abilty of the Hummer, thats the only reason I will go H1, if they can not imporove on the H2 paint, and towing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> So you'll buy an H1 because of the looks and offroad ability, not the paint and towing capacity. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> You posted this:
Howeever, if I do not have 130-140 large, I will just go back to a Ford new F150. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>And you don't, so you will.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> OK, then you posted this:
The H2 pulls the boat just fine, but it strains, lacks power and he gas milaegae drops into single digits. When I pull boast higher than 300lbs I really feel it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You feel 300lbs?<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> And this:
I only lost 1 mpg when towing my boat with the F150. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What engine is in that garbage truck? I've owned Ford F150's for years.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Lastly, you posted this sentence:
I am not sure why you would accept what a your seeing. but maybe you just do not expect much for 50-60K, but I personally do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WTF are you talking about? I got exactly what I wanted for my 50k.

Go back to your F150, Wi****WasAHUMMER, life and stop bitching about the mileage.

I hate dumbasses.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raptor2ride:
. I consistently tow with my H2, so much so that I have brake controller custom made into my dash, up to 10K lbs.


Hey PARAGON do you have any pictures of your brake controller? Iam looking at getting a different one to install and I was interested by your "made into my dash". Thanks! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>