Acceleration

[brewerdude]

I'm seriously thinking about getting an H3 and will go for a test drive this week. Been reading specs, and am concerned about acceleration. How well does that 5-cyl 220HP engine pull a 4700lb vehicle? I'm not so concerned about it on a trail, but getting into traffic might be an issue...

[HummerNewbie]

Brewer,

I am surprised your Exploder is such a dog. I have a Mountaineer and it pretty much gets up and moves. I really have not problem getting around most anything. I really love it when I am getting on the highway and some kid in at little rice burner with racing stickers and a 5' spoiler tries to stay ahead of me Of course I burn twice the gas playing with them as they do Anyway, I must just be lucky with mine. I won't expect it from the H3, but oh well

[NEOCON1]

If he cant get around a bus I dont think we want this guy out there driving a hummer . he will make us all look bad

[Skystreak]

I test drove one today. Its not that bad but you aren't going to be qualifying for any races. Merged on to the highway with no problem.

[brewerdude]

Well I got a chance to test drive one yesterday. However, I didn't get the opportunity to really test the acceleration - the goddamn thing ran out of gas after about five minutes in! The salesguy was a total idiot. So my first H3 experience consisted of me and my pregnant wife pushing one up a small hill into a parking lot off a busy main road. Then we had to walk back to the dealership.

Here was the cake topper - just before we left I asked our sales guy if we could get a brochure - his response "We only give those to the guys who are gonna buy one." After the dirty look I gave him he immediatly said "Oh, OK, I guess I can..." I mean, sheesh!

Anyways, we liked what we saw. But guess I'll have to check one out at one of the other dealerships here in town....

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XM DUDE:
I want to buy one to climb the S##T out of really steep hills and I could care less about 1/4 mile times. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same reason here... AT LEAST I will get an air filter and exhaust system while I wait for the TC to come out.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by brewerdude:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Brewer,

I am surprised your Exploder is such a dog. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a '96 EB with over 150K miles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would explain it I have about 70K on mine and doing good. I actually picked mine up a couple of years ago used when my lease came up on my car. Bought a '98 because it was the last year of the 5.0 and they had no problems with this engine. From what I heard, Ford replaced it because they were not making enough money on service with it

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by S2KtoH3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Why leave it alone if you have the desire and means to change it? That's like telling someone they can't use chrome rims because chrome isn't for off roading. I think you're offbase.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I understand your means to mod, I plan on modding my H3 as well. However, I still don't understand what the point of adding more power to the H3 would be? It's not gonna make the car off-road any better, it still isn't going to be faster than a Toyota Camry and its just gonna cause more wear and tear. Unless some people want the extra power to do stop light drags (and your gonna need A LOT of that power to beat even the slowest of sedans out there), why do it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think the point of SCing or TCing the H3 is to race it. It will make the truck more street friendly. I have no doubt their is enough torque for this truck to wheel it in 4LOW. But getting onto the freeway or driving in the MTN's will require more HP to keep up with traffic at a comfortable speed (70 - 75mph) ... esp. if you are towing some quads or snow toys.
the same goes for the H2. The SC is for my mountain driving. My SUT gets up and goes just fine, but an extra 100 hp will make it a little more enjoyable on the street. Is it necesary? No! Will I need it for off roading? NO! I have been to Moab a few times and climbed some very steep hills and have been in some nasty mud, but have not required more power. It's a matter of customizing the vehicle and upgrading to what you want.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by S2KtoH3:
Although the H3 might have been better off with a 6 cylinder, I don't see what the point of having a turbo, supercharger or NOS in this car is. Lets leave the high speeds to the sports cars and sport sedans that are capable of handling high speeds. The H3 is supposed to be high performance in a different way (off-roading), not a straight line. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Why leave it alone if you have the desire and means to change it? That's like telling someone they can't use chrome rims because chrome isn't for off roading. I think you're offbase.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Originally posted by XM DUDE:
I could never understand wanting a top heavy SUV go fast, that just makes no sense at all. I would get a Corvette if I wanted to go fast.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Some of us know better than to get a 'vette. Nothing but trouble and then I'd have to buy an H2 anyway.

Not one person with a supercharged H2 has complained about problems offroading it.

Offroading:
http://www.checkbuddy.net/H2/paragon%202005.wmv

Onroad:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/0-60.mpeg
http://www.lingenfelter.com/SMOKEDLIGHTNING.wmv

The best of both worlds. Sorry Tim, had to post them again!

[S2KtoH3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Why leave it alone if you have the desire and means to change it? That's like telling someone they can't use chrome rims because chrome isn't for off roading. I think you're offbase.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I understand your means to mod, I plan on modding my H3 as well. However, I still don't understand what the point of adding more power to the H3 would be? It's not gonna make the car off-road any better, it still isn't going to be faster than a Toyota Camry and its just gonna cause more wear and tear. Unless some people want the extra power to do stop light drags (and your gonna need A LOT of that power to beat even the slowest of sedans out there), why do it?

[wannabeH3]

are you kidding me???? seriously you should contact the manager, and explain your distress, I am sure they will hook you up..

[XM DUDE]

I want to buy one to climb the S##T out of really steep hills and I could care less about 1/4 mile times.

[wannabeH3]

haha at least someone appreciates me!

[mudderducker]

another thing to remember, engine size does not always relate to speed either. My Rover has a v8 and it is the slowest dog on the planet. I don't think the truck has ever gone faster than 80 mph

[BigBill]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by brewerdude:
Well I got a chance to test drive one yesterday. However, I didn't get the opportunity to really test the acceleration - the goddamn thing ran out of gas after about five minutes in! The salesguy was a total idiot. So my first H3 experience consisted of me and my pregnant wife pushing one up a small hill into a parking lot off a busy main road. Then we had to walk back to the dealership.

Here was the cake topper - just before we left I asked our sales guy if we could get a brochure - his response "We only give those to the guys who are gonna buy one." After the dirty look I gave him he immediatly said "Oh, OK, I guess I can..." I mean, sheesh!

Anyways, we liked what we saw. But guess I'll have to check one out at one of the other dealerships here in town.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I kind of had the same experience the first time I went to Kansas City Hummer (in regards to the brochure). I asked for one and got a general push off from the sales lady.

Too bad about the gas issue, although when I went back the second time, I test drove a H3 and there was barely any gas in it!

Bill

[KenP]

I think we're going to find this truck has plenty of torque for what's needed. We'll see soon enough.

Maybe Agriv8r will let me test drive one with a video camera.

[XM DUDE]

I could never understand wanting a top heavy SUV go fast, that just makes no sense at all. I would get a Corvette if I wanted to go fast.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by highlander:
I think the answer to this accelleration question is simply a matter of opinion.I traded a 2003 Chevy ZR2 4X4 for my H3 and i can assure you the H3 has much better accelleration than the votec V6 the Chevy had under the hood. Like all the other H3 owners have said previously, this vehicle was'nt designed for speed.If you want speed you should buy a sportscar. I love my H3 and it is by far the best 4x4 i have ever owned and ive had them all. Toyota,Chevrolet,Dodge,and a FORD. I have never had a problem trying to merge into traffic onto the freeway and i drive in Dallas Texas everday. It may not be like driving in Los Angelas or New York City but the traffic is pretty fast paced ! You wont regret buying or driving the H3. Good luck with your decision. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Who is this person? Two thumbs up for you!

Newbie, next time I head through KC I'll try to check in on Marvin. I had time on the prior trip, but didn't know he was out there. BTW, Marcmedic is out there also.

[mudderducker]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by brewerdude:
...The salesguy was a total idiot... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

sounds like it. he wont be in the car biz long, he's not hungry enough to be a salesman.

[BigBill]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigBill:
I kind of had the same experience the first time I went to Kansas City Hummer (in regards to the brochure). I asked for one and got a general push off from the sales lady.

Too bad about the gas issue, although when I went back the second time, I test drove a H3 and there was barely any gas in it!

Bill </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you go back down there ask for Marvin, HoKC on here. Very nice guy, stopped in a met him a several months ago and he showed me the first Slate Blue I saw in persone. If I remember correctly he is the Inventory manager there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the suggestion. I am thinking that I will test drive the H3 again and really look at it again, so I will look him up.

I will probably end up going through GM directly as a friend of mine works for them as a line engineer (designs systems used on the line) through the GM-S or GM-O plan (I think).

Bill