My jeep is offically better than a $55,000 plus suv...

[Yetti]

posted by "jimbo" at www.wegotmud.com



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My jeep is offically better than a $55,000 plus suv... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
« on: January 26, 2005, 11:03:48 PM »

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I work at VW, so the owner wants me and the other porter to make a display of tourags in the snow...so automatically, I grab the keys to my jeep, and I start making a path for the tourags to go on...im in 4 wheel drive, and I see my buddy in the top of the line V8, with Air suspension (adjust height etc.) and I start to move some more...and all i hear is..."SSCCHHHHHHVHHHHHHHHHH".....tires spinning! that d-bag got a tourag stuck! so I put it in 4-hi, and was doing some 4x4 donuts....and after all the digging, rocking, and other techniques, the tourag didnt come out (the owner wanted us to try all means possible before taking the tow-straps out...) so we tried and tried, finally I got tired, hopped in my jeep, backed it up near the tourag...hooked up the tow-strap, 2 seconds later, the tourag isnt stuck anymore! muahaha....I think it is time for a sticker above my hitch that reads, "Place Tourag HERE!"


After all the bashing I missed, I figured I'd get a fresh thread going.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Posted by DRTY:
At least you're intimately familiar with homosexual molestation. Have you filed a lawsuit about it yet? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That won't happen. It's hard to sue when you enjoy it.

[Superman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
Nope, a Rubicon that is STOCK will not have swaybar disconnects and will pick tires up off the ground almost as frequently as an H2.

S <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you have a wrench and thirty seconds?

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Whats with all of this childish know it all crap. I owned a wrangler and modded it to a decent degree and it made it much more fun to trail with but that's it.

I can drive me, my wife daughter and dog 1200 miles to go offroad and do both the trip and the ride in relative great comfort. Driving style is completely different with an H2 as compared to a Jeep.

Mark my words, in a few years even Jeep will relegate their suspensions to fully independent. It is all in how it is applied and IS is looking very promising in a current design challenge because of the way it is being applied.

Ok superdufus, continue on with your mindess drivel. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok, it's been a humpteen posts and 2 or 3 more pages but I just wanted to say this same thing again, as it still applies.

[DennisAJC]

So now you're telling us Jesuits are superior to Catholics????

You're starting to sound like a Nazi.

[Kevin B]

Well one thing he said is true

orignally posted by Superman

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> When people get Jeeps they come with little nuts <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Superman:
I said Jesuit, not catholic. Check your facts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



OOOOPPPPS!!!!!!

[PARAGON]

Ok, it's been long enough. You have said so much **** on this board that has just slid by. Now, again tell us how the Jesuit comment was not a stupid slip up on your part. How you knew that a Jesuit WAS a Catholic. You thought Jesuit meant Jew, didn't you?

[Superman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
So, your little waste of time looking up some 4WD buildup info is quite wasted. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't have to look that up. I know that the spline count on a 05 front superduty 60 is 35 all the way to the outers. They ara available from the factory in 3.73,4.10,and 4.30. They have 1.53" shafts and though not as strong as a 10.5 they are close. I know that an 8.8 has 1.32" shats the neck up to 1.6 before the flange. I also know that a 14 bolt uses 28 spline shafts. Do you even know what a Klune is? Do you know what rc gears are??? What is the difference between rc and hp??? I have personally done a front end swap on a Toyota before. Have you ever set up a diff??? I have. I have done an 8.8 swap on a YJ. Try as you might to make me feel out of my league I have been building and wheeling for a long time, and I would bet that I can do both better than you.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Why not just give the H2, the Rubi's complete suspension and drive-train systems? Now that would make their setups more comparable. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That makes a lot of sense

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Besides, I simply requested that you provide us with standing facts where the Rubi has "out-done" the H2. How hard is that if there is such vast difference in their "setups?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

the simple fact is that there are good ways, bad ways, and innovative ways to build a 4x4. No matter how you slice it, a Rubicon has more of the good (time tested and proven) ways on it right out of the box than any other wheeler under 100k.

[Superman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Superman:
How is the googling going???
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Umm.... I think you need to go back and check on the differences in time between your posts. I don't believe you have any posts within the 10 minute window you used to make yourself look more stupid with this one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be because I have actually managed to do other things today than just post. I didn't know I was being timed.

[DennisAJC]

I still see my Jeep friends from time to time. We went up to Stave Lake last year. We played follow the leader. Most of the areas I lead, they could not follow.

Like me, most of the owners here have had the privilage of experiencing both the Jeep brand and the Hummer brand. You on the other hand are starting to sound desperate.

Until you've done that, you're efforts to convince the majority here are in vain.

[Yetti]

I think you are a bit confused about what roll the Jeep played. the Jeep was the best for its place in History.
since that point there have been many versions that are far superior to the Jeep. the H1 was one on a long list that was built to replace its. it was shown the door for our military use long ago.
you may be a bit young, but back in the late `60's and `70's the Jeep was being put out for Commanche pickups and Chevy Blazers. the Dodge Truck even got the limelight for a while.
I have seen the NEW version of the Dodge Mititary trucks. a very capable package that will push our company to the next level in combat readiness.
I hope it replaces the H1, that way I get a better profit sharing check

[Spike]

originally posted by superturd,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I said Jesuit, not catholic. Check your facts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
One entry found for Jesuit.


Main Entry: Je·su·it
Pronunciation: 'je-zu-&t, -zhu- also -zyu-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin Jesuita, from Late Latin Jesus
1 : a member of the Roman Catholic Society of Jesus founded by Saint Ignatius Loyola in 1534 and devoted to missionary and educational work
2 : one given to intrigue or equivocation
- je·su·it·ic /"je-zu-'(w)i-tik, -zhu-, -zyu-/ or je·su·it·i·cal /-ti-k&l/ adjective, often capitalized
- je·su·it·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb, often capitalized
- je·su·it·ism /'je-zu-&-"ti-z&m, -zhu-, -zyu-/ or je·su·it·ry /-&-trE/ noun, often capitalized

Same thing!!!! Check YOUR facts douche bag.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Superman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
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Well you have certainly refuted convincingly what I said. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, sport, you easily refuted yourself. You are your own worst enemy on this subject.

[Yetti]

That Jeep be "BLING'N"!

[PARAGON]

Whats with all of this childish know it all crap. I owned a wrangler and modded it to a decent degree and it made it much more fun to trail with but that's it.

I can drive me, my wife daughter and dog 1200 miles to go offroad and do both the trip and the ride in relative great comfort. Driving style is completely different with an H2 as compared to a Jeep.

Mark my words, in a few years even Jeep will relegate their suspensions to fully independent. It is all in how it is applied and IS is looking very promising in a current design challenge because of the way it is being applied.

Ok superdufus, continue on with your mindess drivel.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Superman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:


Mark my words, in a few years even Jeep will relegate their suspensions to fully independent. It is all in how it is applied and IS is looking very promising in a current design challenge because of the way it is being applied.

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There is no evidence that Jeep will be going to ifs in the wrangler. There is, however evidence to the contrary.

No matter what you say about IFS it can never provide one simple physical atrribute that makes a solid axle better in slower form of off roading: leverage. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You're are blindly stupid aren't you. As a matter of fact MB/Jeep has prototype suspensions already that are independent all the way around using pneumatic ride control which adapts each wheel to the terrain. Even novice builders recognize the usefullness of independent suspensions if they can be applied correctly. I really don't get it, you can't be this dense of a person.

[ShaggyX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spike:
The Shagmeister, who now lives in a constant reefer induced haze has finally lost all touch with reality. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I am an s10 owner who has been bashing H2's on an H2 forum for almost 2 years now. I lost touch with reality a long time ago.

[Superman]

Call it deperation if you like... whatever. I drove heavy equipment for years. Mostly, rough terrain forklifts. Lull 844C-42's to be specific. The reason that I bring this up is because we put those machines through hell on earth. The have axles which ar pinned to the frame in the center and the front axle has a hydraulic ram which can force the articulation by ten degrees to either side. People who have spent this sort of extensive time off road (42.5 hours a week for three years) can tell you that the holy grail of mud is tire pattern and the holy grail of obstacles is 4 wheels on the ground. There simply is no substitute for this and the only way to acheive it consistently is with straight axles. This fact has never failed me when off roading (and I have done a LOT of it in a variety of vehicles). Put the power to the ground. A ford f250 has straight axles, but it is abviously not the wheeler that a jeep is due to limitations of length, wheelbase, and clearance.

I am not trying to get anyone butt hurt over this but it is simply true that a Rubicon is the best out of the box off roader made in america period. I do not own one, and have no intentions of buying one.

[Yetti]

by the way our shop Turd vehicle is a Jeep Rubi. I almost forgot what it was . Its been through the mill. its had the front end torn right out from under it and it looks like **** from being hammered on.
it great in the Junkyard when the muds up to your knees. we have some Gem cars if you'd like to compair those to the rubicon?