Lemon Law: H3 is the most unreliable car I've ever owned!

[skinner]

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by skinner

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.

Since this is the same engine that's in the Colorado, why don't those guys have the same problem?

Thanks for posting this crap as your first, and hopefully only, post.

[HIHUMMER]

Ok...I don't mean to be a bitch (ok..maybe I do)..but STFU. You're gonna post THAT as your first post!? Why even join the forum if you're getting rid of it?

If anyone here has a right to bitch about their H3..I think I would qualify. However, even w/ as many problems I've had with the H3, I'll still own one. Weather it's mine or a another one. It's still a bad ass truck..so get rid of your POS and buy an FJ....the KY cruiser seems like it would suit you better anyway.

[Hummer Guy]

wonder if he even owns an H3...sounds like a troll

[HIHUMMER]

Originally Posted by Hummer Guy

wonder if he even owns an H3...sounds like a stupid fuking moron dumbass idiot

Fixed.

[HIHUMMER]

Okay...so you want to "help" people that might be having the same problems...fine. But you DEFINATELY didn't come across that way in your first post. You sounded like the typical troll who wants to bitch and whine about Hummers.

Yes...the H3 IS underpowed..but did you not notice that when you test drove it? Why DID you buy it the first place?

[skinner]

Originally Posted by Hummer Guy

wonder if he even owns an H3...sounds like a troll

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

[Ipedog]

Originally Posted by skinner

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

Well, in a sense you did. Had you come to us when your truck started having issues perhaps we could have helped. There are many experts and GM insiders here. Instead you came and told us how things had been bad and that you were leaving:

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6.

So, basically your post was inflamatory and unnecessary. Which brings the question: why did you post it, knowing that you were jumping ship?

Perhaps if you were saying that things had been rough but GM was giving you a new truck...

Enjoy the YupTerra. Good Luck.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

OMG!!! isn't this your 2nd time in here? First you came in as connorgleason and started off by posting the H2 tierod video and talking sh*t. What did you expect?

[Ipedog]

Originally Posted by HIHUMMER

Ok...I don't mean to be a bitch (ok..maybe I do)..but STFU. You're gonna post THAT as your first post!? Why even join the forum if you're getting rid of it?

If anyone here has a right to bitch about their H3..I think I would qualify. However, even w/ as many problems I've had with the H3, I'll still own one. Weather it's mine or a another one. It's still a bad ass truck..so get rid of your POS and buy an FJ....the KY cruiser seems like it would suit you better anyway.

The girl has it right skinner. What are you doing here? I'm sorry to hear that you've had a bad time with your H3 but if you expected people to commiserate with you about this... well... it ain't gonna happen here. Goodby little skinner, enjoy your YupTerra.

[skinner]

Damn...don't take it personally. I was posting this message to address a problem...not to start a like/dislike war. If there are people out there with the same issue this may be useful to them. And honestly I have no idea why the Colorado owners dont have the same problem, but the fact remains that it is the same motor. It could be the combination of small motor, heavy truck, and all-time AWD. But this is not the purpose of this post. A new vehicle should not have these problems...period. I agree, the H3 is an awesome "mid-size SUV" (but by no means a badass "truck"). It has awesome offroad ability...when it works. But we can all agree that is underpowered.

[Agriv8r]

HIHUMMER got it right with the third post

Originally Posted by HIHUMMER

Ok...I don't mean to be a bitch (ok..maybe I do)..but STFU.

hard to believe it kept going after this great advice

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

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Sounds like a dealer related issue.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.

Weird. You've got a different story on this other site:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/boards/...ead.php?t=2145

A buddy of mine just installed an MP3 stereo system from a company called Audio Retro. This thing is pretty cool...it allows you to play over 200 digital songs and you can keep your AM radio. You can even take your music with you when you leave your car and use it as a portable device.

Anyway, I'm a broke college student so I was absolutely thrilled when I saw that they were offering FREE items just for submitting a photo. The only thing is that they require a minimum of 50 entries before they give out their 3 prizes

So...I would appreciate it if you guys could spread the word

www.audioretro.com

[DRTYFN]

Looks like you're quite the little flooder over there. Try it here an your info gets posted. Amazing what can be found.
http://www.musclecarclub.com/boards/...searchid=91253

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Why file in California? You live in New Mexico.

[Brian H]

And at 3 head jobs totaling $10,000, dude, you need to find a different street corner.

[H3.007]

Underpowered? As compared to what? I had an 95 Explorer Sport with a 4.0 V6 that I traded for the H3. The Explorer might have been a bit quicker on the highway, but only a bit. Honestly, I really doubt I could tell the difference if I could drive the two back to back now. I know some doubt the benefits of the K&N aircharger but I do feel it helps the engine breath, assisting in countering any highway speed issues. It also seems to be assisted by lower viscosity synthetics that are designed to reduce friction and heat . In fact, when the H3 engine kicks in at high RPMs, I make sure I am hanging on because it "goes".

This whole horespower issue also is discredited by comparing the HP numbers of the Explorer vs. H3. And there is so much more torq...

Albeit one example of qualitative results as compared to quantitatie, dyno-type results, I have to say that this H3 set up is probably the most optimal. But again, that is my humble opinion.

It isn't a Mustang or for fair comparison's sake, a GM Cyclone, but it is a very, very good all around vehicle. For me, if I want wicked speed, I'll go home and pull the Probe GT out of the garage.

And I can agree with the statement on side-hilling the Xterra or even the Explorers (latter from experience) - keep in mind the horsepower issues
when you are barrel-rolling down those inclines

Oh yeah - and good luck with the Lemon Law - from experience, it is a joke.

[NM H3]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Why file in California? You live in New Mexico.

Figures, New Mexico -- What a bunch of idiots!

[jp's-h3]

NISSAN MORE RELIABLE!
THAT'S A CROCK OF SH** !
JUST BECAUSE YOU WHERE ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE FEW THAT BOUGHT A LEMON DOES NOT HOLD SH** AGAINST THE H3'S RELIABILITY!
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD NISSAN'S THAT HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS. SO HOW RELIABLE ARE THEY?