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09-18-2006, 06:00 PM
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GM, Ford Reportedly Talk Deal
http://www.thestreet.com/_nasdaq/newsanalysis/automakers/10309510.html?&cm_ven=NASDAQ&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA
The nation's two largest automakers, Ford ( F - commentary - Cramer's Take) and General Motors ( GM - commentary - Cramer's Take), have reportedly discussed an alliance or merger.
Trade journal Automotive News, citing sources familiar with the talks, said discussions began in July, but they are not taking place as of now. A source also said there's a "slim chance" that anything will come of the talks.
Both companies reportedly declined comment on the story.
Ford and GM are each seeking to revitalize their struggling North American operations, which have been hurt by rising gas prices and intense competition from overseas automakers.
GM is in talks for a potential alliance with Nissan and Renault, which are both run by Carlos Ghosn. The Wall Street Journal reported that Ford also reached out to Ghosn seeking alliance discussions should the GM talks fall through.
Shares of Ford, which on Friday set a broad cost-cutting plan to accelerate its turnaround, recently were down 4 cents to $7.98. GM shares were down 2 cents to $31.64.
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09-19-2006, 02:43 AM
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Re: GM, Ford Reportedly Talk Deal
Oh wonderful. The weak will get weaker if that happens.
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09-19-2006, 04:12 AM
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Re: GM, Ford Reportedly Talk Deal
no no please say its not so . man i hope GM stays the hell away from ford .
i wish they would buy toyota  then they would be the biggest for a long long time 
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09-19-2006, 05:31 AM
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Re: GM, Ford Reportedly Talk Deal
Look at the cutting edge and quality of Chrysler. They're not hurting.
GM and Ford are lumbering giants that can't move quickly in this marketplace.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe LABOR is the largest expense for domestic brands. Thanks Unions. You've outlived your usefullness. 
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09-19-2006, 10:47 AM
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Re: GM, Ford Reportedly Talk Deal
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Originally Posted by KenP
Look at the cutting edge and quality of Chrysler. They're not hurting.
GM and Ford are lumbering giants that can't move quickly in this marketplace.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe LABOR is the largest expense for domestic brands. Thanks Unions. You've outlived your usefullness. 
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Agree on the labor issue, and there is still the legacy costs. One reason why Toyota will never purchase GM or Ford...the legacy costs are too great.
However, your wrong about Chrysler, they are starting to hurt and primarily it is due to quality issues. Expected losses this quarter 1.5 billion.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...73257320302978
Last week they stated production to be cut by 65-75K unit, this morning, they might double that number.
Hemi engine production has been cut by almost 60 percent (that's understandable).
GM is starting to move faster, but NOT fast enough. Hopefully they will turn it around, if not???
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09-19-2006, 05:17 PM
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Re: GM, Ford Reportedly Talk Deal
I agree, union is so 50s, time for them to move on to some developing countries. While I don't see the benefits of putting GM and FORD together, I do think Hyundai would be a perfect candidate for FORD since their products don't overlap much and FORD has a lot to offer. Too bad I am not Kirk Kerorian so nobody will listen to me 
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