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So...over the past few years our Country has really changed. The way others percieve us, the way our own people percieve America, and our relations with other countries.........

I've been semi interested in politics over the past couple of years but I still dont get head over heels in it. So here is my question to you older folks out there.

Has much changed (in terms of our relationship with Russia and other countries) or am I just getting older and more involved? It really seems to me that relations with our Allies are going down the **** hole and we are starting to isolate ourselves from some of the top dog governments such as Russia and China?

So a very simple question for some of you. Are things getting worse, or has it always been like this (power struggle and threats) and I'm just now starting to take notice and get more involved?
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your coming of age where Time and Events are starting to mean more to you.

Things are getting worse, but that line is the same in every generation, We as humans dont always adapt to change and most people in America are Sheep, If one guy says the economy is in the ****ter, we all start to follow and pass the word along.

We have become a society of posessions, where people see value in a person based on what he owns, Thanks to Media and the exploitation of the Rich and access to theyre homes and rides, etc...

Nobody really puts values on Marriage, Family, Future etc... Thats all taken for granted.

The generations of immigrants coming into this country has really changed it alot for the worst, The outsourcing of america has really hurt us too, but americans want a deal regardless of the future impact, Americans are fat and lazy, they feel an entitlement to life, nobody wants to work for it, especially the baby boomers and they teach theyre children the same thing, why do you think the white kids of america today have no work ethic, Its not cause the mexicans are taking theyre job, its cause MTV and media told them that you cant have a paper route, you cant work at a restaurant, that would be lowering yourself, you need to start at the top, You have been at your job 2 days, you should be the president by now.

Something has to change in this country.

We are a country of Rich and Poor, no more middle class, only to be worse in the years to come. America needs to start manufacturing jobs here again, farming here again, Grow real food, Grow real animals.

The **** they put into livestock to grow faster and then we eat it, its not healthy by any means. The milk we drink, the veggies we eat, its all fabricated by means of stimulation.

Farmers helped built this country and we turn our backs on them saying, that we can get that in a pill form.

The medications that doctors throw at us, and we think its safe cause a doctor told us so, get a clue, its about profits for the RX companies and its about vactions and bonuses for the doctors for pushing them.

Wake up Citizens, take back America, it starts in your home.

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:10 PM
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Russia and China...allies?
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Russia and China...allies?

Wow, thanks for such wonderful insight
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Are you serious about Russia and China being allies of the U.S.?
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Are you serious about Russia and China being allies of the U.S.?

Oh please Mr. ****ing has something to say but wont/cant/doesn't just come out and ****ing say it?

what? what do you have to say that isn't just some one sentence crap line to try to call someone out on something they already admitted to not knowing much about... ....

Do you want to explain to me what your getting at, why your getting at it, and then we can continue to chat and I can continue to learn?
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Russia and China are fair weather friends...
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Are you serious about Russia and China being allies of the U.S.?

China, Russia, and the US have United against many things and on many subjects..........


hence why I'm asking if our relations with them have always been this strained, or if this is getting worse and worse by the moment........
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Me too!

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your coming of age where Time and Events are starting to mean more to you.

Things are getting worse, but that line is the same in every generation, We as humans dont always adapt to change and most people in America are Sheep, If one guy says the economy is in the ****ter, we all start to follow and pass the word along.

We have become a society of posessions, where people see value in a person based on what he owns, Thanks to Media and the exploitation of the Rich and access to theyre homes and rides, etc...

Nobody really puts values on Marriage, Family, Future etc... Thats all taken for granted.

The generations of immigrants coming into this country has really changed it alot for the worst, The outsourcing of america has really hurt us too, but americans want a deal regardless of the future impact, Americans are fat and lazy, they feel an entitlement to life, nobody wants to work for it, especially the baby boomers and they teach theyre children the same thing, why do you think the white kids of america today have no work ethic, Its not cause the mexicans are taking theyre job, its cause MTV and media told them that you cant have a paper route, you cant work at a restaurant, that would be lowering yourself, you need to start at the top, You have been at your job 2 days, you should be the president by now.

Something has to change in this country.

We are a country of Rich and Poor, no more middle class, only to be worse in the years to come. America needs to start manufacturing jobs here again, farming here again, Grow real food, Grow real animals.

The **** they put into livestock to grow faster and then we eat it, its not healthy by any means. The milk we drink, the veggies we eat, its all fabricated by means of stimulation.

Farmers helped built this country and we turn our backs on them saying, that we can get that in a pill form.

The medications that doctors throw at us, and we think its safe cause a doctor told us so, get a clue, its about profits for the RX companies and its about vactions and bonuses for the doctors for pushing them.

Wake up Citizens, take back America, it starts in your home.

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I disagree that things are so gloom and doom...i.e. the "stirring the pot"
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your coming of age where Time and Events are starting to mean more to you.

Things are getting worse, but that line is the same in every generation, We as humans dont always adapt to change and most people in America are Sheep, If one guy says the economy is in the ****ter, we all start to follow and pass the word along.

We have become a society of posessions, where people see value in a person based on what he owns, Thanks to Media and the exploitation of the Rich and access to theyre homes and rides, etc...

Nobody really puts values on Marriage, Family, Future etc... Thats all taken for granted.

The generations of immigrants coming into this country has really changed it alot for the worst, The outsourcing of america has really hurt us too, but americans want a deal regardless of the future impact, Americans are fat and lazy, they feel an entitlement to life, nobody wants to work for it, especially the baby boomers and they teach theyre children the same thing, why do you think the white kids of america today have no work ethic, Its not cause the mexicans are taking theyre job, its cause MTV and media told them that you cant have a paper route, you cant work at a restaurant, that would be lowering yourself, you need to start at the top, You have been at your job 2 days, you should be the president by now.

Something has to change in this country.

We are a country of Rich and Poor, no more middle class, only to be worse in the years to come. America needs to start manufacturing jobs here again, farming here again, Grow real food, Grow real animals.

The **** they put into livestock to grow faster and then we eat it, its not healthy by any means. The milk we drink, the veggies we eat, its all fabricated by means of stimulation.

Farmers helped built this country and we turn our backs on them saying, that we can get that in a pill form.

The medications that doctors throw at us, and we think its safe cause a doctor told us so, get a clue, its about profits for the RX companies and its about vactions and bonuses for the doctors for pushing them.

Wake up Citizens, take back America, it starts in your home.

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My opinion is that there is too much rhetoric in this 1st reply and possibly in your first question e.g. allies.
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My opinion is that there is too much rhetoric in this 1st reply and possibly in your first question e.g. allies.


Take out the fact I called Russia and China our allies and I believe it's a very simple question that should allow someone that really knows what they are talking about to explain it to me in somewhat of a very short and simple answer.

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The nuclear posture of the country (U.S. military) is more relaxed than in previous years.
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I'm new to this forum...old person with technology. I won't point out that someone is clueless. I'll clarify and validate their question. Things are better.
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The nuclear posture of the country (U.S. military) is more relaxed than in previous years.

No, we have the Pakistan and India threat, the Iran and Isreal threat, the Syrians, the Saudi's...the east/middle east is where we were with russia in the 80's.
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Simply put, as 3rd world countries increase their technology, they get a little drunk with power until some slaps them down. North Korea? China? Same sh1t different countries.

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No, we have the Pakistan and India threat, the Iran and Isreal threat, the Syrians, the Saudi's...the east/middle east is where we were with russia in the 80's.

In contrast to these threats, the US no longer has airplanes orbiting 24/7 waiting to give a "launch the nuclear arsenal" in response to a Russian or Chinese nuclear attack i.e. the 1980's.
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are starting to isolate ourselves from some of the top dog governments such as Russia and China?

So a very simple question for some of you. Are things getting worse, or has it always been like this (power struggle and threats) and I'm just now starting to take notice and get more involved?[/quote]
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The game stays the same, only the players change.


Most women say if they ruled the world there would be no wars, I disagree, I'd bomb them back to the stoneage...get it over with already.
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Most women say if they ruled the world there would be no wars, I disagree, I'd bomb them back to the stoneage...get it over with already.
I agree!! A good ole'fashioned spanking. Time outs haven't worked. (meaning embargos)

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