Taking On Water on Driver Side Under Floor Mat

[JMV1210]

Had an Alarm installed today and during the install the installer noticed underneath the driver side door mat a ton of water, he said it was like a puddle. Passenger side does not have this. Now my first suspicion is the location where my XTC off road lights wire is siliconed to get into the cabin through the roof. Still need to look at that further.

Anyone else hear of any issues with taking in water I this location?

Also, I have noticed a few weeks ago (not recent) a water drip at the on star microphone located on the ceiling of the H2 on the driver side…

Thoughts?

[Mr. I - Man]

I always aim center mast then double tap. The muzzle climb usally puts the second shot between the eyes. That is if you wait for the respiratory pause before squeezing not pulling the trigger

[h2co-pilot]

No, shoot him in the crotch. Then maybe he would speak english for a few.(it's probably located above the beltline of his jeans)

[xonxoff]

Your aim is a little high and left. But you have the right idea

[JMV1210]

Thanks Spike!

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr. I - Man:
I always aim center mast then double tap. The muzzle climb usally puts the second shot between the eyes. That is if you wait for the respiratory pause before squeezing not pulling the trigger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Awww...... how disappointing to hear that from a Marine. Remember "One shot, one kill." No point in wasting an unneeded round.

And center of mass is great for the average marksman, but to snipe, center of cranial mass is the shot.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xonxoff:
Your aim is a little high and left. But you have the right idea </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That's ok, it'll take out the right side of his brain and he won't be so creative anymore.

[JMV1210]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fever:
I know the first year is free and I didn't plan on renewing. I pulled up my account online and it shows to expire in 2006 . It was nice to have when the check engine light came on and they ran diagnostics for me. Paragon is right though about the airbag scenario. Peace of mind does carry a value albeit different to each other. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Drinking and posting and this is what happens-

[khiarrr]

After taking my car into the West Covina,CA dealer 5 times, the leaking into the carpet and insulation finally stopped. But I recently washed my car pretty thoroughly, and there was a small puddle of water not directly under the carpet, but right under the plastic trim.

I've submitted a complaint or whatever it's called with the Better Business Bureau and GM said they want to settle, but haven't called me back, so I'm waiting for the Better Business Bureau to go into an arbitration hearing.

I'm tired of this leaking problem, but I'll live.

[JMV1210]

Las Vegas,
Do you call me JVM instead of JMV on purpose. I noticed you have done that a few times.

Thanks Ken and Las Vegas, I will look at thoses links and to a closer look at the marker light-

Joe

[KenP]

Welcome to the forum, Sundown. Let us know how the fix goes.

[Sundown94]

Well, I'm back from a business trip and wanted to take a sec to provide an update on my leak. I went and boat "black adhesive silicon" and last Thursday. I removed the corner roof light and -- to my surprise -- found that the lightbar wiring travels very nicely into the truck through a rubber gromet. Also running through the same gromet are the wires for the corner light and it all looks very stock. So I got the ol' garden hose out and poured water all over the spot where the corner light sits. I made sure to drench the rubber gromet, etc. I looked inside my truck and there was no water coming in. :-( I spent about 15 or 20 minutes doing this and nothing. So then I thought maybe my leak is not the corner light, but rather the sunroof or maybe down by the wiring harness for the door. Still nothing. Is it possible that the water has to build up or collect somewhere first before finally leaking into the vehicle? Because I spent so much time spraying water on the corner light, I could not spend too much more time spraying down the sunroof (I ran out of daylight). This may sound really stupid, but should I open the sunroof and pour water directly into the channel? My goal is to see if I can actually find the source of the leak before slapping silicone in random locations all around my truck.

[hummerNCO]

[quote]Originally posted by JMV1210:
Anyone else hear of any issues with taking in water I this location?
QUOTE]

Boy have I…

I have been dealing with this all winter. This year LA has been particularly rainy. I first noticed my driver floor flooded last January 12 after hearing water sloshing at a stop. I took it to Pasadena Hummer and 8 days later got it back having all the marker lights on the roof sealed.

February 11 there was more sloshing and the carpet was flooded again. I took it back to Pasadena Hummer where they re-sealed the windshield. That took 5 days.

I thought that was it since they said they had actually traced the leak to the windshield.

February 19 there was a good hard rain while my truck was parked outside at work. It sat in the rain for several hours before I went to lunch and checked the floor. It was dry so I thought the leak had been fixed. I pulled out of the parking lot and saw a nice puddle about 90 feet across and 4 to 6 inches deep. I hit that and sprayed water at least 20 feet across the sidewalk. I had a great time until I looked down and saw that I now had about half of an inch of water sloshing around on my floor. I was now convinced that the leak was not from the roof. I had read on this forum that Cerritos Hummer had great service so I decided to try my luck there.

I took my truck to Cerritos Hummer on Feb 21. John, one of the service consultants, explained that he had several H2’s in thr shop that were leaking from the firewall seams and that GM had people out here from back east working on a fix but they were unsuccessful so far. They gave me a rental and my truck was there for 3 days. I did have other work done, including an update to the software that I had seen discussed in another thread.

When I picked up my truck, there was still a half inch of water on the driver floor and the truck had a musty smell. The best they could do was to vacuum out the water and send me on my way. I was told that my VIN had been sent to GM and they would call me if/when a fix for the leaking firewall was issued.

When I got home I pulled back the carpet to dry the pad. I looked for evidence of water from the firewall and from the rubber boot in the door jam having seen a post about a leak from there. I found no indication that water was coming from the firewall or from the rubber boot in the door jam. Also, by the amount of water that flooded my floor in the short time I drove through that puddle I figured that the leak must be quite large. What I discovered was a plug on the driver’s floor. I thought this must be the source of the leak so I covered it from underneath with Rigger’s tape (like duct tape but stronger) and made arrangements to go back to Cerritos Hummer and have it sealed.

I also looked at the passenger side to see if there was a plug there since I had no water on that side. I found there was a hole but it had been sealed at the factory even before the painting process with a metal plate and body sealer.

March 7, Cerritos Hummer sealed that plug and confirmed that they could not find any indication of water leaking form the firewall. They even left the Rigger’s tape in place. I picked up the truck on March 10 and pulled back the carpet. The pad was still damp and I asked why they did not think it necessary to dry the pad. John then offered to order a new pad. It has come in but I have not had time to have it installed yet.

We had another hard rain the night of March 22. I drove for a couple of hours on the Freeway to Corona and back. The next day I pulled the carpet back and found the pad was sopping wet and water seemed to be coming from the center area of the truck under the driver’s seat. I could not pull the carpet back any further without taking out the seat. I could not find any other obvious points of leakage from underneath the truck and the area by the firewall and the door were dry.

I took the truck to Cerritos Hummer March 24 and said I think it is still leaking. The plan now is to install the new pad next week, inspect the floor with the seats, carpet and pad out, and see if there is any pooling or obvious leaks. Then, drive it in the next rain and see if the new pad gets wet.

So yeah, you can say I have heard of issues with taking on water in this location.

The first 3 pictures are of the plug on the driver’s side. The last two are the sealed hole on the passenger’s side from inside and from underneath.

BTW…what the f**k is fever talking about?

[JMV1210]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Car wash. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nahhh Spike is a hand washer, he never brings his rig to the car wash. Plus he has the OEM off road lights, so his rig has some addtional height to it-

Ken when are you guys going camping?

[Sundown94]

T, KenP, HNCO,
Thank you for the greetings. AS important as fixing my leak is, I have not been home long enough yet to take apart the light and throw a bead of sealant in there. Not to mention that I also don't want to throw just any ol' kind of sealant in there either. I want to get the right kind...the kind that will actually adhere to the surfaces it is applied to (roof, lightbar wires, etc.). Having said that, does anyone know the actual name of the correct sealant? I know a few people said "RTV Sealant"...is that the brand name? Can I find it at my local Pep Boys, or do I need to go somewhere else, like maybe a marine store or something? I hope to pick up the stuff tonight and then apply it tomorrow (I get out of work so late that I currently only have enough daylight to do one errand per evening...so that sucks too). :-) So hey, thanks again for welcoming me to the discussion group...I look forward to hanging out and possibly providing someone else with something that might be helpful.

Sun-

[BlingBlingH2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummerNCO:
I have thought of trying the fish tank method of finding the leak; seems easier than driving the thing into the lake and looking for bubbles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yo mang da best way to test fo dem leaks is da lake/ocean test. it don't matter if ya do it in salt water or in fresh water, just drive dat GM H2 into da largest body of water ya'll can find, wait until you be in dar far enough fo your air intake to take in water and den just put dat GM H2 in netural and floor it. da trick works every time mofo, trust me mang

[JMV1210]

Had an Alarm installed today and during the install the installer noticed underneath the driver side door mat a ton of water, he said it was like a puddle. Passenger side does not have this. Now my first suspicion is the location where my XTC off road lights wire is siliconed to get into the cabin through the roof. Still need to look at that further.

Anyone else hear of any issues with taking in water I this location?

Also, I have noticed a few weeks ago (not recent) a water drip at the on star microphone located on the ceiling of the H2 on the driver side…

Thoughts?

[hummerNCO]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hooked On Ebonics:

yo mang... blah blah blah (cannot translate) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spike:
Joe,
Take off the "A" pillar garnish. If it is wet behind it, than it is the marker light. If it is dry, then look at the rubber boot that surrounds the wiring harness where it passes through the front door jamb. That was where my truck was leaking from. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When did you go through water?

[JMVH2]

Good luck JMV1210 that fix it on mine as I mentioned before that was the problem on mine too keep us posted