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11-22-2003, 03:46 AM
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Well I called the ranger station last week and he told me absolutely not to do the John Bull trail because first it was too difficult (his opinion) second there was 6-8 inches of snow on it making it completely impassable by any off road vehicle and too dangerous
The same day someone in a modded out Yoda made a post that we should skip this one because of the snow on the trail would make it too difficult
Since everyone thought it was a bad idea, dangerous and impassable we thought we'd give it a shot! So here's our day.
Please remember I'm a big H2 supporter but we simply didn't have any with us today. These pics are for all Hummer owners. A Hummer is a Hummer.
Enjoy!
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11-22-2003, 05:32 AM
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The rock rails took a beating. We all have a little body damage but nothing major. I bent up my roof gutter a bit on that last tree split and took about 6" of paint off it. Of course it was dark when I got home and my truck is coated in mud so it could be worse.
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11-24-2003, 02:54 AM
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Congrats on one hell of an adventure!!!
As anyone can figure, I wasn't part of this excursion. Dave and I put together a Hummer Happening for Bakersfield Hummer on Saturday (the next day) and I've lately been pressing my luck with my wife and all the wheeling I've been doing lately.
However, given the pics I've seen...I'm not sure I would have wanted to go. The underbelly of the H1 has two things the H2 doesn't have: a LOT more clearance AND long/smooth skids plates intended to be dragged over rocks & boulders. The H2 has those ladder-like gussets reaching out to the rock-rail that tend to catch rocks and get ya all hung-up. I can't really see how we'd get past those two tight trees. that center boulder would just smash right into our skid plates: game over!
Let me get some 37's, tweak the torsion bars up and get some serious underbody protection....I'll give it a shot then!
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11-22-2003, 04:12 AM
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Lots of snow, deep loose dirt, rocks and a killer incline. We had to air down to 8 psi to make this one. Check out Alan at the base to give perspective on the incline.
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11-22-2003, 04:38 AM
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So, we're not afraid of rocks that come up to our headlights but that darn snow  It kept slipping us off our lines. 6 feet from this little obstacle are 2 large trees. The h1's had about 4 inches on either side. Any slipping would cause damage. Luckily only 3 of us slid in to the tree 
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11-22-2003, 05:37 AM
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Buckeye,
Balls of steel! LOL
Damn H1 is practically new, but he don't care. Gotta admire that. Probably make my way to the dealership next week and start kicking a few H1 tires.
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11-23-2003, 07:25 PM
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Great pics. Thanks for your time in posting them-- and keep 'em coming! H1, H2, I don't care-- I just love to see a Hummer kicking some ass!!! Thanks again for both the pics and the commentary. Happy trails.
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11-22-2003, 03:56 AM
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So, we're climbing checking GPS and took a break. The wind was KICKIN' out here! Check out the flag.
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11-22-2003, 04:56 AM
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In the snow the White Mountain trail en route to John Bull with Gold Mountain at the end is worth the trip for Alec and DRTY (even Shaggy and his ridiculous comments  ) I feel confident in saying that the snow made this run very memorable. Our rock rails did some overtime today.
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11-22-2003, 12:47 PM
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We had four foot drifts at the top, 6-8 inches of snow running on sections of the trail. It just depends on where the sunlight hits the trail and yes it makes all the difference in the world because it's so slick.
We broke through one 4 ft. drift that took a little while. It's really fun when there are rocks, dirt sand AND you're on a major incline. Hummers are so great 
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11-23-2003, 04:27 PM
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Hi All,
John Bull was one of the toughet trails I've ever done, I've been up steeper, I been on longer boulder runs, I been through tougher obstables, but never in the same run, The down hill through the boulders was amazing! Yes I did use the winch, once at the top of the White Mountain run, to get through the four feet of snow without shoveling and once to get through the two trees obstable, what an amazing obstable! At one point I was resting on the rocker panels on both sides with my wheel get barely touching the ground, it was so cool, there is no other vehicle in the world that can self-recover like an H1! It was a great run. After I used the winch for me we were able to just use a tow rope to hel the second and third guy through! Actually Subman made it up the White Mountain run without help but he was the tail gunner and all the snow was gone by then! Keep on Hummering!
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11-22-2003, 08:24 PM
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Sure. That would be awesome. I like to play in the mud. Most of the really good mud pits at brown's camp were covered or closed.
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11-22-2003, 05:27 AM
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Man that looked fun. Any pics of damage Jason?
Nice to have you back in one piece buddy  .
Gotta admit seeing a group of H1s still get me excited.
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11-22-2003, 03:46 AM
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Well I called the ranger station last week and he told me absolutely not to do the John Bull trail because first it was too difficult (his opinion) second there was 6-8 inches of snow on it making it completely impassable by any off road vehicle and too dangerous
The same day someone in a modded out Yoda made a post that we should skip this one because of the snow on the trail would make it too difficult
Since everyone thought it was a bad idea, dangerous and impassable we thought we'd give it a shot! So here's our day.
Please remember I'm a big H2 supporter but we simply didn't have any with us today. These pics are for all Hummer owners. A Hummer is a Hummer.
Enjoy!
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11-23-2003, 09:00 PM
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Oh, what a pisser!!!
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11-22-2003, 04:26 AM
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The snow played tricks on us. Just when you thought you had a good line the snow would say otherwise. Either you couldn't see what was under it or you would slide off the rock you were trying to drive over and hammer your rock rails.
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11-22-2003, 08:21 PM
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Argo,
If you'd like I'll make sure they call and invite you.
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11-22-2003, 04:00 AM
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The great part about this trip was the snow in the lower elevations had melted leaving tons of water holes, deep sand, clay and more to play in. Here's Alan taking one of our many baths. No, we only went through them once. We had 8 hours of straight off road driving.
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11-23-2003, 03:20 AM
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It looks like you LA Boys, have way to much fun in the snow.  Arizona got some of that white stuff, I think they call it sand.  Great Picture's of your trip.
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11-22-2003, 04:33 AM
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This trail forces you to take lines you normall would avoid. I had a wall to my left that would have damaged my doors had I slipped off this rock at all.
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