Colora H2 thread

[Adam in CO]

http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=27862

[HummerH2]

these people need to be taken care of, theyre just jealous cause' they have a tahoe

[Kevin B]

Shhhhhh. Don't try to confuse anyone with facts. We all know the H2 is just a re-bodied Tahoe .

All that talk just reminds me of all the rocks I had to stack for the truck (6 inch lift, big tires) that went with us on the White Mtn. run..................all the Hummers made it, even the H1's .

[timgco]

I would love to post a response, bu have to wait for thier admin to send me codes to be bale to log on. Adam, why haven't you responded? you know half of these guys anyhow.

Post some Moab pics, offer this potential hummer owner an off-road ride or rdirrect him to our site.

[dochummer]

Great post timgco

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Tim, now it's the transmission. Just because there is not a big allison they will complain about that. The L65 was originally developed for the 6.0L engine that's in the Denali and others. It is rated to handle 400+ HP and ft/lbs of torque. It uses a case thats the same in size as the L60 that this guy is really thinking of but the guts are "beefed up" considerably. It's a stronger transmission than the old TH400 that was used forever in 3/4 ton GM trucks. Here are some of the upgrades for the L65: five-pinion gears for input and reaction gearsets (versus four-pinion gears in the L60), heat-treated stator shaft splines, induction hardened turbine shaft, heavier-duty low/reverse roller clutch, additional friction plate added to 3-4 clutch (seven plates versus six in L60), and shot-peened output shaft.

Please ask him to point to all of the vehicles with the L65 as the standard transmission. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I posted it for ya? You should join on there. You could be the hummer Diety on that board.

[PARAGON]

Tim, now it's the transmission. Just because there is not a big allison they will complain about that. The L65 was originally developed for the 6.0L engine that's in the Denali and others. It is rated to handle 400+ HP and ft/lbs of torque. It uses a case thats the same in size as the L60 that this guy is really thinking of but the guts are "beefed up" considerably. It's a stronger transmission than the old TH400 that was used forever in 3/4 ton GM trucks. Here are some of the upgrades for the L65: five-pinion gears for input and reaction gearsets (versus four-pinion gears in the L60), heat-treated stator shaft splines, induction hardened turbine shaft, heavier-duty low/reverse roller clutch, additional friction plate added to 3-4 clutch (seven plates versus six in L60), and shot-peened output shaft.

Please ask him to point to all of the vehicles with the L65 as the standard transmission.

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the "Allison" name on the Duramax tranny is a joke, at least in the first generation of them to roll off the line. I have no idea how they are in the newer models, but time will tell. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, thats funny. I may be wrong but from what I remember from the old Euclid (now Terex) scrapers had a Detroit two cycle engine and an Allison air shift automatic six speed transmssion. My point being Euclid and Terex were at the time a division of G.M.

It's so easy to be a "know-it-all" when facts dont come into play .

[timgco]

Yep, pointless. Other than a couple of them, everyone else are a bunch of typical Jeep owners. I don't like to stereotype, but over there it's all about hummers suck and Jeeps are the best thing in the world and they never break or get stuck. WHATEVER. It's too bad the BS is so thick over there. It might have been fun to meet up with some of the people and check out the trails. But judging by their attiude, they are just 16 year olds that just got their driver licenses and the keys to dady's old Jeep. Now i know what Alec was tlaking about.

[Adam in CO]

http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=27862

[KenP]

At least one guy is trying to straighten them out on the H2 frame.

[GeneseeMtn]

It would make these guys happier if the Hummer series of vehicles was named H1...H1/2...H1/3...etc.

97.5 H1

[PARAGON]

I would be a troll since I have no CO ties right now and have no idea of the trails up there. No point in doing the board war thing. I just figure if you bounce the facts around a bit, it won't be so much brand bashing. Give them the facts and if the still want run down the H2, oh well, they'll come around eventually when they follow one up a trail

[4churchill]

"so within a month some wacked out hippie is going to torch it with an organic molotov cocktail"

my favorite line fromt he thread....

[dochummer]

I thought that H1 didn't look right.

[PARAGON]

It's still just typical BS about another brand and using misinformation to make a point. The 6.0 had a "knock" that GM recognized as an issue but a non-issue since it did not cause any damage. This was in the early 6.0L engines and the engine in my denali is one of those. Basically, best I can tell, is that there is an extended break-in issue because it is only noticeable if there is bad carbon buildup at the throttle body with the A/C on and it drops the RPM to 500 or just below if you have over 50K miles on the engine. You might here the slap then. But up to at least 20K the slap is noticeable.

To my knowledge no H2s experienced this problem. And this is not something that develops, it is something that is there from when you drive it off the lot due to the tight tolerances between the top of the piston and the bottom of the head. So, the slap issue is a non-issue where H2s are concerned IMO.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dochummer:
Let them know it's not a Tahoe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
At least one guy is trying to straighten them out on the H2 frame. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's so tough trying to re-educate the narrow-minded.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerH2:
these people need to be taken care of, theyre just jealous cause' they have a tahoe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hey, i like the Tahoe. If it weren't for them, we wouldn't have H2's.

[dochummer]

Let them know it's not a Tahoe

[dochummer]

I was actually thinking of getting one for the wife. But I might either go with the H3 or wait until the hybrid tahoe comes out.... We'll see. She loves them...