American Pilots POWN3D by Canadian Pilots in TOP GUN Competition.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

First of all, DRTY's right that the best pilots are killing douschebags in the Middle East instead of drinking berry tea and eating quiche in Saskatoon.



Where's the link to that story? Oh, I see, here it is. It's the Boeing press release, which really says:


http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/...dc/96-278.html

I can see how you got confused when typing the word "six" and accidentally typed "cream of the crop." And, of course, you accidentally typed the "threw everything at them" quote instead of the real lead "F/A-18 Hornets Sweep William Tell Competition." Silly Canassian.



Right also. The F-18s and the F-22s are the only U.S. aircraft that have vectored thrust, are far and away the most superior dogfighters in the U.S. arsenal and probably the world (there are no Canadian-made fighter planes). However, as cool and fun as dogfighting in these competitions must seem, U.S. air-superiority fighters almost always take out enemy fighters at a range of many miles. I don't think there's been a single instance since Vietnam of any enemy fighter coming within three miles of a U.S. fighter in combat and living to tell about it. In short, U.S. fighters have not had to dogfight in the last twenty years, because we shoot down the enemy planes before they can get close enough. We jam their radar and other guidance systems so that they can't get a shot of and then nail them. In any event, the winning planes are all U.S. planes.



The USAF wargames pitting the F-22 against the F-15 have demonstrated that they have to put eight F-15s on each F-22 to make it even close. And the F-15 is widely considered the best air superiority fighter over the last 30 years (again, no dogfighting needed). That it takes eight F-15s to match one F-22 is pretty amazing when you consider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15_Eagle


While the F-15s, F-16s, and F-18s all have the radar signature of a super-heated 27,000 lb chunk of metal, the F-22 has the radar signature of a bird and can cruise supersonic without afterburners. It's considered two generations beyond the F-15 or any other fighter in the world. We could fly 300 of them over Beijing, Moscow, or Ontario, and no one would know it until they hear the sonic booms as we fly away. It truly has no competition. And we won't be giving any of them to the Canadians anytime soon.

Why must you kill my thunder?